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	<title>Comments on: He&#8217;ll cave</title>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://warrenkinsella.com/2010/04/hell-cave/#comment-1958</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way - or felt the same way. I&#039;d just pack it in and pay no more attention; because- what is the point? Why bother? 
Now there seems to be hope, although I wish we didn&#039;t have to wait 2 weeks to finish things up. 

I would think that if Harper called an election over this - over Parliament; people would begin to figure him out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way &#8211; or felt the same way. I&#8217;d just pack it in and pay no more attention; because- what is the point? Why bother?<br />
Now there seems to be hope, although I wish we didn&#8217;t have to wait 2 weeks to finish things up. </p>
<p>I would think that if Harper called an election over this &#8211; over Parliament; people would begin to figure him out.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Parks</title>
		<link>http://warrenkinsella.com/2010/04/hell-cave/#comment-1948</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mr. Miliken, Thank you!</description>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://warrenkinsella.com/2010/04/hell-cave/#comment-1947</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbelievable. He didn&#039;t cave and he found Harper in contempt and has ordered him to deliver the documents in full, subject to working out the process with the other parties within a tight 2 week deadline.

Wow. I&#039;m actually kinda floored and very impressed.

Milliken: &quot;Accordingly, on analysing the evidence before it and the precedents, the Chair cannot but conclude that the Government`s failure to comply with the Order of December 10, 2009 &lt;b&gt;constitutes prima facie a question of privilege&lt;/b&gt;.  

I will allow House Leaders, Ministers and party critics time to suggest some way of resolving the impasse for it seems to me we would fail the institution if no resolution can be found. However, if, in two weeks’ time, the matter is still not resolved, the Chair will return to make a statement on the motion that will be allowed in the circumstances. [...] 
 
It is the view of the Chair that accepting an unconditional authority of the executive to censor the information provided to Parliament would in fact &lt;b&gt;jeopardize the very separation of powers that is purported to lie at the heart of our parliamentary system and the independence of its constituent parts. Furthermore, it risks diminishing the inherent privileges of the House and its Members, which have been earned and must be safeguarded&lt;/b&gt;. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable. He didn&#8217;t cave and he found Harper in contempt and has ordered him to deliver the documents in full, subject to working out the process with the other parties within a tight 2 week deadline.</p>
<p>Wow. I&#8217;m actually kinda floored and very impressed.</p>
<p>Milliken: &#8220;Accordingly, on analysing the evidence before it and the precedents, the Chair cannot but conclude that the Government`s failure to comply with the Order of December 10, 2009 <b>constitutes prima facie a question of privilege</b>.  </p>
<p>I will allow House Leaders, Ministers and party critics time to suggest some way of resolving the impasse for it seems to me we would fail the institution if no resolution can be found. However, if, in two weeks’ time, the matter is still not resolved, the Chair will return to make a statement on the motion that will be allowed in the circumstances. [...] </p>
<p>It is the view of the Chair that accepting an unconditional authority of the executive to censor the information provided to Parliament would in fact <b>jeopardize the very separation of powers that is purported to lie at the heart of our parliamentary system and the independence of its constituent parts. Furthermore, it risks diminishing the inherent privileges of the House and its Members, which have been earned and must be safeguarded</b>. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Breukelaar</title>
		<link>http://warrenkinsella.com/2010/04/hell-cave/#comment-1946</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Breukelaar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should be an interesting two weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should be an interesting two weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Tribe</title>
		<link>http://warrenkinsella.com/2010/04/hell-cave/#comment-1945</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Tribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say James has with a 2 week qualification, won that bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say James has with a 2 week qualification, won that bet.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://warrenkinsella.com/2010/04/hell-cave/#comment-1944</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Milliken came through!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Milliken came through!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Partridge</title>
		<link>http://warrenkinsella.com/2010/04/hell-cave/#comment-1943</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HALLE-FRICKIN-LUJAH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HALLE-FRICKIN-LUJAH</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://warrenkinsella.com/2010/04/hell-cave/#comment-1941</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn.  I only wish I had the confidence in Speaker Milliken that James Bowie showed.

Drinks included?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn.  I only wish I had the confidence in Speaker Milliken that James Bowie showed.</p>
<p>Drinks included?</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Parks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All would be lost if Miliken folds. The majority will of parliament should be the rule not the exception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All would be lost if Miliken folds. The majority will of parliament should be the rule not the exception.</p>
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		<title>By: Jymn</title>
		<link>http://warrenkinsella.com/2010/04/hell-cave/#comment-1930</link>
		<dc:creator>Jymn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with WK on this one. We have lost. Milliken may be a &#039;wonderful guy&#039; but that does not mean he will do the best thing for Canada. He must be under considerable pressure from the Harper government. The threat of personal retribution should he rule against the Conservatives would drive most people to buckle under. The best we can hope for is some type of compromise so that Canada doesn&#039;t surrender almost total democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with WK on this one. We have lost. Milliken may be a &#8216;wonderful guy&#8217; but that does not mean he will do the best thing for Canada. He must be under considerable pressure from the Harper government. The threat of personal retribution should he rule against the Conservatives would drive most people to buckle under. The best we can hope for is some type of compromise so that Canada doesn&#8217;t surrender almost total democracy.</p>
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