— Musings —01.08.2011 11:56 PM
Picture, thousand words
— Musings —01.08.2011 11:56 PM
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Poignant words from Sheriff Dupnik (CNN):
“At Saturday’s press conference, Dupnik did not state a motive for the assassination attempt against the Democratic congresswoman. But he suggested that “vitriolic rhetoric” in political debates could have deadly consequences.
“When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government, the anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this county is getting to be outrageous. Unfortunately, Arizona, I think, has become sort of the capital,” he said. “We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry.”
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I find it interesting that no one seems to care that a
judge was shot to death as well as the congresswoman. Oh yeah – he
was a republican ie a conservative.
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Really? That is the most ridiculous thing you could say (well, probably not, given you said this at all). Over the last 18 hours since this happened, I’ve read two different articles about the judge. What about the child that was killed? The judge and the child were innocent bystanders, the story is that someone walked up to a member of government and shot them in the head at close range. It doesn’t matter what party the victim is from.
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When it comes to attaching blame my dear, it seemingly does. But then of course Regan wasn’t shot by anybody encouraged by left wing rhetoric – just a crazie.
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On the subject of crazies, or just plain political whores;
Why isn’t Julian Assange dead yet? Ezra Levant Small Dead Animals
T. Flanagan??
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mental illness doesn’t chose political sides. I’m pretty sure there’s enough blame to go around but the truth? We may yet here it from the young man himself. The crime is using this to score political points. Disgusting on all sides this morning.
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That crosshairs metaphor where you hunt but don’t kill?
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Actually, that’s true of Sarah Palin herself.
The Youtube clip from her current Alaska ‘reality’ TV show, shows that she’s a pathetic shot (with someone else (her old dad) having to cock the rifle after each shot to load the next bullet; then she, um, swaps rifles after missing the elk 4 or 5 times; and then after a cut or two showing it through the camera man’s sights, it mysteriously goes down).
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It’s true that mental illness doesn’t choose sides. Obviously, the gunman suffered from some mental disease. And, also, we don’t know what his motive was. It’s not clear if his actions were politically motivated. There’s too much conjecture surrounding this man (I wouldn’t want to be judged by all the books on my shelf. I have Mao’s Little Red Book [an ironic gift from a friend in university] nestled against “The Purpose Driven Life” [an occupational hazard], neither of which define me). Until a motive emerges, I think people need to take a breath, grieve, and live according to the principles of freedom and democracy that we all share.
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Gord once again attempts to suck and blow at the same time. It’s become a habit.
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Defending Palin, the Republican hate mongering machine and Fox is to quote Hillary, “unhelpful”.
I have good friends in the US and this isn’t what they are about.
The quote above from Sherriff Dupnik that Brammer 8:34 a.m posted should be given an ongoing audience both throughout the US and the World press as well.
There are many serious problems with government and their corporate masters in the Western world, but the various factions of the Republican political movement have no credibility in addressing that while they choose to bed with the very people who are the problem. Koch darn it.
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Hmm… maybe in Gordworld, ‘hunting’ doesn’t count as ‘assassination’ if / since the intention is to EAT the kill. So teapartiers are… cannibals?
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And that has what to do with the North American political spectrum? Please for once, qualify.
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… and that mis-appropriation perfectly sums up the right-wing disconnect.
Certainly, the Che imagery is an empowerment for change, and sometimes that change requires violence. But it is violence in response to the crimes perpetrated by oppressors, not violence simply for its own sake, or for the purposes of marginalizing or oppressing others.
The arbitrary or self-serving relativism of the right is not only illogical, it is psychotic. It perceives the violence they perpetrate essentially as being justified because their victims use violence to protect themselves. A disconnect from reality indeed.
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Lots of dumb chump teenagers don’t really know who Che was– he was “a rebel,” and thus should be adored. Lack of history education is a problem. If they knew the nasty murderous sh*t he got up to, the vast vast majority of them would change their tunes and not wear the Ts. But there is NO AMBIGUITY to be found in the message from Palin’s fundraising poster– or in her fave slogan this fall (Don’t retreat, RELOAD!). Shame on you Gord, you know better.
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I just had a look at some articles in a newspaper called the Tuscon Citizen. One article is on this accused fellow. At the end of the article is a list of readings that he says were his favourite readings. It strikes me as a prejudice when people, especially authorities, cherry pick titles that are an accused person’s readings, or picks one or two authors/titles out of the many that might be on a person’s book shelf.
You are right, MEIN KAMPF is at the end of the list. The list does not include Karl Marx, so I guess there is another list somewhere.
The list in the Tuscon Citizen mentions works by Orwell, Baum, Homer, Lewis Carroll, Ayn Rand,…and others.
Perhaps someone can see a connection in some of those readings to this crime.
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I read Mein Kampf. I wanted to understand how someone like Hitler thought and why.
I wanted to try to understand why I grew up without a Father and why that was necessary. I wanted to try to understand why he had to disembark at Juno.
People read a variety of things for a variety of reasons.
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Answer the question Gordo; “And that has what to do with
the North American political spectrum? Please for once, qualify.”
Manly men like Harper’s mentor Mr. Flanagan wouldn’t shy away from
a direct question. While you are at it, kindly list the number of
meat packing plants within a 50 klm range of High River. 100 klms??
200?? Remember I asked you about that in an earlier thread and you
didn’t answer.
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To the Tulkster 12:07 am.
Again you didn’t answer the question and again you are trying to deflect the issue. You wrote that my claims that a Western beef producer can’t even negotiate the price he gets for his own cattle anymore, was a crock. I asked you to provide the names of meat packing facilities within a given range of an given area I chose as an example and you go off a different tangent.
I am talking cow calf operators as I outlined earlier, not feed lots. Producers not factories. Anyway, this isn’t the right thread for this discussion and you are trying to avoid the inevitable admission that producers don’t have any options left.
We will get to the whole Smithfield, Cargill, lobbyists, corn subsidies, medicated feeds, Rogaine things another time.
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Do they sell the book with a free lipstick?
http://www.current.com/1o0354c
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http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/7832686-rip-christina-taylor-green-born-on-911-died-today-by-a-gunmans-hand
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The worst you can say about Palin, Warren is that she was a plagiarist. How about putting up a picture of the target map the Dems used?
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=13647
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http://obamalondon.blogspot.com/2011/01/inexplicable-edits-on-sarah-palins.html
or
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/01/palin-aide-symbols-werent-rifle-sights-but-surveyors-marks/69163
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For repeating the party talking points. Do you guys get email alerts or something?
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Good thing there wasn’t a movie a few years ago where George Bush gets assassinated or this whole “blame right wing rhetoric” meme might have sounded hypocritical.
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http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/listen-up-lefties-the-difference-between-the-dncs-bulls-eyes-and-sarah-palins-surveyors-crosshairs/
Ohhhh. It seems the DNC has had its own target issues!!!!
Priceless.