01.04.2011 03:27 PM

The significance of the cabinet shuffle this afternoon

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39 Comments


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    Paul R Martin says:

    A minor shuffle that promotes two GTA Conservatives. The Liberal GTA fortress is under attack.


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    Namesake says:

    But what about The Scud Stud’s bro’ being shifted from being a semi-successful Diplomat to the Americas to doing naught but warmed-over Lip Service to the Environment?

    The Cud Spud?


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    billg says:

    Something to talk about before the Juniors play for gold
    tomorrow?


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    Ted says:

    Minister of State for the
    Elderly??? The man who was in charge of the
    largest police force in the country after the RCMP (OPP) and the
    largest municipal police force in the country (Toronto Police) is
    now given the vaunted position of being in charge of the elderly
    reporting to another Minister. I wonder if his comparison of his
    trials and tribulations as a campaigning candidate to the suffering
    during the Holocaust and under the Nazis had anything to do with
    this demotion.


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      smelter rat says:

      He’s destined to be a 1 termer. Or, more correctly, a .3 termer.


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      James Curran says:

      The elderly vote. In fact, they line up to vote. The Cons will run with their Crime platform fearmongery and the ex cop Fantino will sell it to those old folks (Rae and Iggy excluded of course). So, I’m not sure it’s a demotion.


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      MississaugaLibPeter says:

      I think Harper may have given Ignatieff a gift today. I wonder if Bubble Boy, and now we know why he was kept in a bubble during the bye-election, will be allowed to answer any questions in QP? Cleverly crafted questions could be worth half to full point percentage gains in the polls. Early Stockwell Day at least had some experience in the Alberta legislature.

      Maybe all this means is that Harper will prorogue again.


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        The Doctor says:

        Before you go concluding that Fantino is some huge
        political liability for the CPC, you really ought to canvass the
        views of actual ordinary voters, as opposed to Liberal Party of
        Canada partisans and Ottawa Press Gallery pundits etc. I’ve seen no
        solid evidence that Fantino is a political net liability for the
        CPC. Yeah, he shoots his mouth off, and sometimes misspeaks. Big
        Hairy Deal. A lot of people consider that to be a sign of a sort of
        homespun genunineness. Remember also that outside of Ontario, most
        ordinary voters don’t know who Fantino is, have never heard of him
        and couldn’t care less about what he says or doesn’t say. As for
        your wishful equivalence to Stockwell Day, Stockwell Day was leader
        of Her Majesty’s Royal Opposition and the man second most likely to
        become Prime Minister at the time in question. Fantino is the MP
        for Vaughan and a junior cabinet minister. There’s a bit of a
        difference there in terms of profile and significance. Once again,
        we see Liberal Party supporters wishfully hoping for the magic
        bullet that’s going to come along, destroy the CPC and return the
        LPC to its rightful place at 24 Sussex. A while ago it was the
        economic meltdown. Then it was the long-form census. Now it’s
        Julian Fantino.


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        smelter rat says:

        He looks pretty grumpy in any of the photos I’ve seen of
        him.


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    James Curran says:

    Harper 38 Ministers. Martin 33. Chretien 28. Mulroney 38.

    Hrmm. I wonder who was really more fiscally responsible. Conservative? Or, Liberal?


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    james Smith says:

    Um, seem to remember the UN quality of life index telling the world Canada was THE BEST joint in the world with 28 cabinet ministers. Guess with38 they can work on moving us to number 7 from number 8.


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    orval says:

    I smiled and smiled when I heard the news of the appointment of retired police chief Fantino as Minister of State for Seniors. Just like Harper. While everyone focuses “police chief” the Prime Minister focuses on “retired.” I admit I didn’t see that coming. But it makes so much sense. Fantino will not (for now) be asked to front the “law-and-order” agenda, instead he will front pension reform, elder care, retirement health care and the political importance of the elderly. Sort of like Jason Kenney is to new Canadians, Julian Fantino will “outreach” to working pensioners. Another key demographic of people who actually vote to persuade to go over to the Conservatives.


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      Sattva says:

      I agree. Fantino’s appointment as Minister of State for Seniors is a good political move. Baby boomers and older were taught to respect the “uniform”. The fact he was Chief of Police gives him automatic respect. He’ll be allowed to make mistakes or political gaffes particularly if it upsets the youth (anyone under 45).


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        smelter rat says:

        “Baby boomers and older were taught to respect the ?uniform?.” ———You believe that? Seriously?


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          jan says:

          God, talk about not understanding the demographic. LOL


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    Do Something says:

    I do wish the Liberal Party would push for a public inquiry into the G20. If they did so, they would be able to prove that Fantino was the heavy hand of the law on Sunday, taking over from Bill Blair, and expose Fantino for what he is – someone who treated his own police force poorly, and promoted a state of martial law in Toronto.

    I find it disturbing that he is being moved up the ranks so quickly into the Cabinet given his very checkered past, and someone needs to expose him for what he has done.


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      The Doctor says:

      I’d be interested in knowing if you think what you’re proposing would be good politics or not. Of course, if you think it’s the moral and right thing to do, good on ya. But I really wonder about the LPC harping on the G20 stuff for political gain. Overall, I don’t see the political gain for the LPC in this. First of all, almost nobody outside of Ontario gives a rat’s behind about it — except for left-leaning activist types who would never dream of voting Conservative in the first place. And really, in terms of political orientation, again, by and large the sort of people within Ontario who have a huge problem with what went on tend to lean to the NDP-Liberal camp.

      Think about the optics for the CPC attack machine: Iggy wants to hug people who smash store windows and burn cop cars. However distorted and unfair that characterization may be, that’s what you’ll get.


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        Namesake says:

        Maybe. But maybe you just “don’t see the political gain”
        because you’re prejudging the result, which could just as easily
        be, “Harper wanted nearly 1,000 people to get arrested and
        ‘kenneled’ to justify spending nearly $1-B to turn the city he
        hated into a temporary police state, all because of some minor
        property damage which they deliberately let happen.”


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          The Doctor says:

          I think you just backhandedly proved my point. What you typed above perfectly encapsulates the preferred take on the G20 that we hear from professional Harper-haters such as yourself. I get that. On the other hand, if you think that what you typed would actually be the verbatim executive summary to come out of a genuinely impartial formal inquiry into the G20 affair, then I really wonder about whether your partisan leanings are impairing your ability to judge things with any measure of objectivity. Like, you think some respected retired judge is going to actually conclude that an animating motivator for the Prime Minister in this affair was that he hated Toronto? Yeesh.

          All that aside, my main point is that I just don’t see what happened at the G20 as a significant vote mover for anyone. Most people who vote Conservative would not agree with your description of what happened. More people who lean Liberal, Dipper, Green and Bloc would. The net result politically is a wash.


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            Namesake says:

            Right. A respected retired judge like John ‘Small Town Cheap’ Gomery would never stoop to editorializing like that. And right, I used the scare quotes to predict the actual executive summary, rather than to insulate myself from a libel charge by clearly invoking a hypothetical OLO warroom parallel to the CPC warroom missile you launched. Thanks for the reality checkup, Doc.


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    ben burd says:

    WTF does Fantino know about the average ‘senior’ he now earns 200K+ and has big fat Police pensions. BS still baffles brains


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      CQ says:

      They ALL make their 200K+’s plus a big fat pension. (Heck, I never made that money all decade, just sayin’ lol.)


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    Michael Teper says:

    Now that Mr. Fantino is a junior minister for seniors, I expect that Mr. Harper will appoint a senior minister for juniors.


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      Warren says:

      I love it

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