08.31.2011 10:48 AM

Eves: Hudak bringing Tea Party to Ontario

Ernie Eves blasts Tories who want to bring ‘Tea Party’ politics to Ontario (Tories-Eves-Sterling)

TORONTO – With just days to go until the provincial election campaign begins, former Progressive Conservative premier Ernie Eves is taking aim at members of his own party.

Eves reportedly told an Ottawa gathering that longtime MPP Norm Sterling, who lost the Tory nomination in the riding he’s held for 34 years, wasn’t treated fairly or honestly by the party.

Eves tells Toronto radio station AM640 his comments last week weren’t directed at Leader Tim Hudak or the party, but a few individuals who want the “Tea Party version of Ontario politics” in that riding.

Despite having the backing of former premier Mike Harris and federal minister John Baird, Sterling lost a bitter nomination battle to Jack MacLaren in March.

MacLaren is a former director of the property rights group, the Ontario Landowners Association.

Fellow Tory Randy Hillier, a past president of the landowners, campaigned on behalf of MacLaren and worked against his caucus colleague.

(AM640, The Canadian Press)

51 Comments

  1. Thomas Jefferson says:

    I’m a dual citizen of Canada and the USA.

    I’m a member of the Tea Party.

    I’m sorry to say but there isn’t one politician in Canada that could or would survive a primary in the USA. Tim Hudak would be to the left of Nancy Pelosi in America and you know that.

    I get offended when you try to imply that being a part of an “idea” is somehow a bad thing.

    Yelling “fire” to save the country is not a bad thing, but you’re a One World Government guy so you could care less about the future of Canada.

    • Pat says:

      Wait… what?!?

    • Justin says:

      What makes you the vanguard of truth and honor, that your ideas will save the country while you beat your chest. Give me a break, go tell that to your sheeple who hold signs at rallies stating ‘government hands off my Medicare’. The tea party is nothing but a corporate backed movement that would love to curtail environmental protection, labor laws, and anything that reeks of them ‘evil’ government.

      • allegra fortissima says:

        “The tea party is nothing but a corporate backed movement…” Thom Hartmann provides some very interesting info here:

        http://youtu.be/ftNN4J4qZwg

        • Thomas Jefferson says:

          ““The tea party is nothing but a corporate backed movement…” Thom Hartmann provides some very interesting info here:”

          The Tea Party is not “one” official anything.

          It’s mostly people who believe in limited government ,fiscal responsibility and the free market economy.

          That’s it.

          If there is “corporate” money involved then one has to assume that “business” agrees with those principals.

          • The Doctor says:

            Hey Einstein: go look up the word “principal” in the dictionary. Then look up the word “principle”. You just might learn something.

          • Outsider says:

            It’s also a bunch of zealots who believe only that their way is The Right Way (in all senses of the word) and that there is no room for dissent; if you are not with them, for every vowel, consonant and syllable, you are not just wrong – you are dangerous.

          • Justin says:

            Just because business agrees doesn’t mean it’s in our best interests.

      • Thomas Jefferson says:

        “What makes you the vanguard of truth and honor, that your ideas will save the country while you beat your chest. ”

        You would not be typing on your computer without the principals Thomas Jefferson laid down.

        One could argue that without the USA, Canada would look like Cuba or Venezuela. The same Marxist politics are played in all three countries with the only difference being Canada sharing the border with the USA.

        What’s the difference between Harper and Castro? Harper just has more money to throw around to his friends.

        • Pat says:

          So wait… why doesn’t England look like Cuba? Or South Africa… why doesn’t it look like Cuba?

        • Pete says:

          Harper loves to pretend he is Bush lite not Castro’s big brother.

          Canada is no Cuba or Venezuela and NOR IS IT A POOR COUSIN OF THE US. You need us, not the reverse.

        • Justin says:

          It is to laugh. By the way Tommy boy, do you have your gold, guns and ammo ready in your bunker for the coming apocalypse that you guys keep yammering about.

    • Philip says:

      Thomas Jefferson? That’s your screen name? I feel so sad for you.

  2. Cynical says:

    You dishonour the name of Thomas Jefferson by using it as a pseudonym.
    Jefferson would have cringed at the thought of irresponsible, small-minded Tea Party politics.

    Greg, in Gibsons

  3. Thomas Jefferson says:

    “Jefferson would have cringed at the thought of irresponsible, small-minded Tea Party politics.”

    People that are part of the Tea Party want to adhere to the strict principals that Mr Jefferson set out in the Declaration.

    Excuse me?

    The Progressives hate the Constitution.

    Warren and the rest of the elite political establishment in the USA and Canada is what the Tea Party opposes.

    There is no Tea Party in Canada as there are too many hands in the dole.

    The Tea Party wants to bring Jefferson and his ideas back to America.

    Thank You.

    • The Doctor says:

      You really ought to go take remedial spelling and grammar lessons, if you’re going to purport to start lecturing people.

  4. Thomas Jefferson says:

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

    What would Jefferson think about Harper, McGuinty, Hudak, Pelosi, Obama, Bachmann, and all the other One World Government types?

    “Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it..”

    Would Jefferson support the McGuinty,Harper, Bush or Obama government, or would he want it abolished. The answer is in the above quote.

    • Pat says:

      But… McGuinty and Harper derived my consent via election… I don’t know if you missed it… there was an election on May 2 (my guy didn’t win, but majority rules) and there will be one in October. My government has done a good job protecting my life, giving me liberty (as long as it doesn’t infringe on the liberty of others) and has allowed me to pursue happiness (thank you subsidized education). Without government I wouldn’t be guaranteed any of these things. I’m pretty safe and happy, I’m not on “the dole”, I’m not an elite (though I am educated), and I like what the government is doing (generally).

      I simply do not understand the rationale behind your argument. I suspect that you are focusing too much on the liberty part (and ignoring life and pursuit of happiness) when you rail against collecting taxes, despite the fact that by taking those taxes government is actually protecting both life (police, military, health care) and happiness (education, health care, EI).

      None of this matters though, because this is Canada, not the United States of America. Use Canadian examples, if you can.

      I know I’ll get criticized for trying to converse rationally with someone who obviously has no idea what they are saying/lacks the ability to argue using facts or a knowledge of American history, but I figure I should try just once…

    • frmr disgruntled Con, now Happy Liberal says:

      Funny, I always thought that Michele Bachmann was a supporter of or was supported by the Tea Party…..at any rate, a movement that would be supported by or lend their support to the likes of ill-educated, ignorant, narrow minded bigots like Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann is enough to make me head for the hills….

      From Wikipedia:
      “The Tea Party’s most noted national figures include Republican politicians such as Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, Dick Armey, Eric Cantor, and Michele Bachmann, with Paul described by some as the “intellectual godfather” of the movement.[17][18] Though the Tea Party movement is not, as of 2011, a national political party, polls show that most Tea Partiers consider themselves to be Republicans[19][20] and it has tended to endorse Republican candidates.[21] Commentators including Gallup editor-in-chief Frank Newport have suggested that the movement is not a new political group, but simply a rebranding of traditional Republican candidates and policies.[19][22][23] An October 2010 Washington Post canvass of local Tea Party organizers found 87% saying “dissatisfaction with mainstream Republican Party leaders” was “an important factor in the support the group has received so far”.[24]”

      Your movements “Im all right Jack” attitude is the antithesis of what we are as Canadians, and that is why your kind of movement will always be rejected by the overwhelming majority of Canadians….

    • Thomas Jefferson says:

      “You should read up more PMSH bEfore you lump him into that group.”

      Harper allows government officials paid for by the taxpayers to silence speech.

      He also allows government officials paid for by taxpayers to charge people criminally who protect their life and property.

      Harper is a TYRANT based on those two facts alone.

      • Thomas Jefferson says:

        “PMSH is not a dictator – he does not have the power to do what you demand.”

        Well that’s my point. If Harper, with a majority will NOT change the laws and give Canadians Free Speech and Natural Self Defense, then he is a tyrant.

        I come from the school where my natural rights don’t come from my so called rulers.

        Harper has done NOTHING for freedom or liberty his whole time in office. He has blown a lot of money to his friends though. Why is Clement not in jail for the 50 million money bomb.

        Canadians have the right to Free Speech and Self Defense. They just have to listen to Mr Jefferson.

      • frmr disgruntled Con, now Happy Liberal says:

        Pot, meet Kettle……

    • Attack! says:

      Hey, it’s Alien vs. Predator!

      humans… duck!

      Fun to watch someone more consistently, er, right, than Gord call him on his slavish idolatry of the Great (yet-to) Deliver’er

      • frmr disgruntled Con, now Happy Liberal says:

        LOL, good one, Attack!…..

        I do notice con apologist extraordinaire Mr. Tulk isnt speaking much about fratboy Tim these days……wonder why….lol

      • Philip says:

        “Hey, it’s Alien vs. Predator!

        humans… duck!”

        That has to be the funniest line I have seen on here in a long, long time! It’s like watching two heavyweights slug it out. My money is on Gord.

  5. Michael S says:

    Any journalist that says “cite, please” need only read these comments for confirmation.

  6. Jhomas Tefferson (Canada) says:

    As an opponent of “ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT” (oh my god!!!), you do realize that Canada is a different country from America, and that we also have a different constitution?

    Have you read some of these provisions?

    15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

    –> (Guarantees that if heterosexuals have the right to marry, then gays also get that right.)

    (2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

    –> (Grants power to the Canadian government to create affirmative action policies.)

    27. This Charter shall be interpreted in a manner consistent with the preservation and enhancement of the multicultural heritage of Canadians.

    –> (Guarantees that Sunday cannot be a compulsory day of rest for non-Christians.)

    1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

    –> (Allows restrictions on hate speech.)

    3. Every citizen of Canada has the right to vote in an election of the members of the House of Commons or of a legislative assembly and to be qualified for membership therein.

    –> (Unlike America, *guarantees* convicted felons and prisoners their fundamental right to vote.)

    Now get the fuck out of my country.

    • Thomas Jefferson says:

      “As an opponent of “ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT” (oh my god!!!), you do realize that Canada is a different country from America, and that we also have a different constitution?

      Have you read some of these provisions?

      15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.”

      There are no laws in Canada. There is no equal justice in Canada. There is no freedom or liberty in Canada.

      If you have no right to free speech and no right to natural self defense, then surely you’re not free.

      What world you living in buddy?

      When do you ever hear about any big shots in Canada going to jail? Equal justice? Yeah right.

      The politicians in Canada make Capone and Gotti look like saints.

      • Jhomas Tefferson (Canada) says:

        If your government won’t protect you from the excesses of the corporate class, then surely you’re not free.

        America handed the car keys and a bottle of whiskey to Lehman Brothers and Merill Lynch. Turns out their freedom came at the expense of the rest of the world.

        Canada’s banking system didn’t collapse, thanks to the tyranny of Canadian regulations.

        If you have no money and your economy is going to shit, then surely you’re not free to do much of anything.

        Keep that in mind as America keeps giving tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires to invest in China.

        If you don’t like it here, go ahead and leave.

        • Thomas Jefferson says:

          “If your government won?t protect you from the excesses of the corporate class, then surely you?re not free. ”

          That isn’t their job and in a true free market, those companies would be bankrupt.

          I fail to understand what you mean when you say “government” seeing how the people are the government.

          • Jhomas Tefferson (Canada) says:

            You idiot, those companies ARE bankrupt. And they took the entire global economy down with them.

            You’re not even smart enough to play dress-up as Jefferson.

  7. Thomas Jefferson says:

    “But… McGuinty and Harper derived my consent via election”

    The people of Ontario and Canada had no choice but to vote for the party leaders.

    Why can’t the people pick the leaders of a party?

    • smelter rat says:

      Um, we don’t vote for party leaders in Canada, unless you happen to live in their ridings. What sort of meds are you supposed to be taking? You should get back on them.

      • Thomas Jefferson says:

        “Um, we don’t vote for party leaders in Canada”

        That’s the problem buddy boy.

        We only get to vote for a local MP while the party picks the leader and future P.M.

        There is no democracy in Canada. Could Obama have ever been elected in Canada? Could I ?n Could you or anyone else not inside the political established? They would never allow an outsider to come into the fold to lead. It never has happened and never will.

        • Pat says:

          Obama could have, if his party presented the best platform. Actually, in the US Obama’s party did win the most seats, and thus, Obama would have become the leader even if it was done that way. He was chosen by his party to lead in the Presidential election.

          Obama could easily win here if he ran for the Liberals and they actually won an election.

          I don’t get your point at all…

    • Pat says:

      Also… members of the parties, who – last time I chacked – are people, do select the leaders of the party. People also select the riding candidates. You don’t need to be an elite to go to a leadership convention or a riding candidate vote.

      People have no choice but to vote for the options presented, but the options tend to represent the political spectrum relatively accurately. I realize you might not have a representative on the ridiculous right wing, but that doesn’t mean you cannot start your own party. If the government is the people, and you are a person, then why not run for office?

  8. The Doctor says:

    This “one world government” bugbear kills me. Lefties complain about it in the context of stuff like the WTO, i.e., an insidious trans-national, anti-democratic elite organization trampling on our rights. Righties complain about it in the context of the UN and the EU. But funnily enough, lefties don’t typically see anything wrong with the UN and, ususally, the EU. And righties usually have no problem with the WTO or other trade liberalization bodies. Hypocrisy anyone?

    • Thomas Jefferson says:

      There all the in game together.

      Look up Fabian Society. They tell you on their website they want a One World Government run by their friends. Read it. Not just that, but every single British Labor P.M subscribes to that ideology. People are blind that they don’t understand that the players are purposely bringing down the USA to bring in a One World Government.

      Everything that is happening is meant to happen. Mubarek and Gaddafi, as tyrannical as they were, just witnessed the One World Order in action. They want his oil.

      Cultural Marxism is being used as the disguise to bring in this One World Government.

      • The Doctor says:

        Hey, I didn’t realize that Anders Behring Breivik was allowed to make internet posts while awaiting trial.

        I suppose the flouridation of our drinking water is also part of this insidious conspiracy.

        Also, you failed to mention that this conspiracy is being perpetrated not by humans, but rather by a race of alien lizard-people, disguised as humans.

  9. Michael S says:

    WK;

    This is why I read your non-blog. You can’t make this shit up!

  10. TofKW says:

    This crackpot showed up at Red Tory’s site a couple of weeks ago, since Martin blogs more about US politics than our own. He stumbles in to defend Palin, Bachman, FauxNews and the teabaggers in general.

    BTW – this cretin proved he is a crackpot by calling prime minister Stephen Harper a tyrant a few posts up. Regardless of whether someone is a socialist-leftie or somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun; if they call PMSH a tyrant, that’s pretty much the litmus test for being a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

    Also, his IP address changes and he logs in under a new email address at Red Tory’s site. I’d hazard to guess he’s doing the same here Mr Kinsella. Also he once logged in as “Thoomas Jefferson” there.

    • George Jefferson says:

      He’s also been popping up as anonymous all over Morton’s blog.

      Unlike me he doesn’t have a deluxe apartment in the sky.

    • Thomas Jefferson says:

      “Also, his IP address changes”

      No it doesn’t. i already explained to Red Tory that when you change your fake email address , it changes the icon that is used.

      Warren can see I’m using the same I.P.

      And not just that, why are you clowns stalking me?

      Get out of the University classroom, get a job, use your hands, and you will feel free.

      It’s really a shame that children, through no fault of their own, are being given a “progressive” education where success in the private sector is looked down upon and where governmnet is taught to be solution to everyone’s problems.

      It’s really a shame.

      • George Jefferson says:

        “use your hands”? You think those clothes just dry clean themselves?

        But tell me Tom, does the fish fry in the kitchen? And the beans burn on the grill?

    • Thomas Jefferson says:

      “if they call PMSH a tyrant, that’s pretty much the litmus test for being a few fries short of a Happy Meal”

      When a leader of a people puts them in jail for protecting their own life and property, what do you call that?

      When a leader of a people uses taxpayers dollars to silence speech, what do you call that?

      Harper is a tyrant, there is no doubt about it. An autocratic dictator that whips his crew to vote whatever way the dictator wants them to vote.

      Only one vote every 4 years stops Canada from being a full blown Communist country.

      • pomojen says:

        Wow. A tyrant dictatorial PM. A country one step away from being communist.
        Sound like you love it here.
        If you find this state so miserable and toxic, you really should think about moving.
        Canada won’t stop you.

      • pomojen says:

        And quit deflecting from the really tough question….do you have a deluxe apartment in the sky?

      • Philip says:

        Thomas Jefferson, what exactly do you mean when you talk about free speech and freedom? How do you define both of those terms?

      • TofKW says:

        When a leader of a people puts them in jail for protecting their own life and property, what do you call that?

        If they’re breaking the law in doing so, then I call it our government enforcing the laws of the land. That’s what we elected them to do.

        Don’t know the case you are referencing (if there even is any) but if these crackpots are engaging in illegal activities, I hope they are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

        You seem to forget that Canada is a different country from the US; complete with a real international border separating the two, different foreign policy, different system of government, legal system, and a very different constitution.

        Our charter of rights and freedoms does not call for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Canada’s constitution calls for peace, order and good government, and those are very different concepts.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace,_order,_and_good_government

        If you can’t handle that, then do yourself a favour and move back to south to the States. If money is an issue, I’m sure the regulars here can come together and pool resources to provide you with bus fare.

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