Three questions, none of which I sincerely know the answer to and I welcome commentary from all Kinsella’s little followers:
1. Is it possible for a large scale, legally constituted, open membership, more or less law abiding, and more or less financially transparent nonprofit organization like a political party to become immoral?
2. If yes, (and again, I don’t know) Is the Liberal party of Ontario immoral?
3. Does the question even matter, that is to say, does morality apply to a group?
Well, the Wynne Liberals jubilation may be tempered somewhat with the report today the OPP have found reasonable grounds to believe a crime was committed when two Liberal operatives offered a job to the candidate to step aside for the former NDP MP to run.
If all it took to convict someone was for the police to believe reasonable grounds existed, the jails would be overflowing. Luckily in this country we have a presumption of innocence and a justice system.
Slight quibble, the OPP at this point believe a crime *may have been*, not was, committed, hence the need to follow through with an investigation to see whether charges can be laid to prove that a crime was committed. When we talk about legal process language is important after all.
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Three questions, none of which I sincerely know the answer to and I welcome commentary from all Kinsella’s little followers:
1. Is it possible for a large scale, legally constituted, open membership, more or less law abiding, and more or less financially transparent nonprofit organization like a political party to become immoral?
2. If yes, (and again, I don’t know) Is the Liberal party of Ontario immoral?
3. Does the question even matter, that is to say, does morality apply to a group?
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Warren,
Good gut! Remember how Kathleen inherited what I would call the McGuinty lumps — and she as a minister in that government still managed to persevere.
If Sally Field were here she’d point out that Kathleen might say “I can’t deny the fact that you like me, right now, you like me!”
From Field’s mouth to Justin’s ears, he without the baggage of government.
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Or could it be that the constituents stuck with the guy that represented them well?
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Well, the Wynne Liberals jubilation may be tempered somewhat with the report today the OPP have found reasonable grounds to believe a crime was committed when two Liberal operatives offered a job to the candidate to step aside for the former NDP MP to run.
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If all it took to convict someone was for the police to believe reasonable grounds existed, the jails would be overflowing. Luckily in this country we have a presumption of innocence and a justice system.
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Slight quibble, the OPP at this point believe a crime *may have been*, not was, committed, hence the need to follow through with an investigation to see whether charges can be laid to prove that a crime was committed. When we talk about legal process language is important after all.
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Where there is smoke, there is politics