Yes. Do you know how the CBC works? George Carlin’s, “I calls ’em as I sees ’em and if I don’t sees ’em I makes ’em up” routine, I think, was based on CBC’s political reporting.
Let’s keep in mind that the Liberals could’ve ousted Harper in 2008, but instead chose to prop him up by voting for all his odious legislation. (Trudeau actually voted in favor of mandatory minimum sentences on people growing a few pot plants back in 2009.)
Unfortunately, Trudeau has learned nothing from this experience that decimated the Liberal party in the 2011 election. He has ruled out working with the centrist NDP leader Tom Mulcair, citing “fundamental differences.” But has no problem propping up another Harper minority.
Hopefully Canadians will know what they are voting for this election. 66% want Harper gone. Trudeau is more interested in representing the 34%, not to mention corporations and Chinese oligarchs.
Change for the sake of change can also be a change for the worse. Why would Canadians want a new inexperienced government in these uncertain and challenging times? Perhaps the devils you know are better than the devils you don’t know. Now if the NDP and LPC had forged a united centre-left party we would be getting the best (or worst?) of both.
The Liberals are tanking with Trudeau and the NDP are a mystery. The CPC attack ads will now define Mulcair and his NDP cohorts. Will Canadians bite or spit out what they are being fed?
Well, if not this Sunday, it’s going to be soon. The CPC have been making all kinds of funding announcements over the last few days, which as far as I know can’t be made after the writ is dropped.
The latest was this afternoon announcing giving Toyota a $58 million loan (Ontario Liberals kicking in $42 million and Toyota investing $421 million) to expand/upgrade their plants in Ontario in exchange for promises in writing the 8,000 plus jobs at Toyota are “safe”
This announcement was reportedly supposed to happen next week.
Well, the NP ran a story just last Thursday citing Conservative party sources that Harper was going to call for the abolition of the Senate the following day.
Conservatives’ Trudeau attack ad is prompting NDP supporters to vote Liberal: Forum Research poll
TORONTO — A Conservative Party attack ad targeting Liberal leader Justin Trudeau for being “just not ready” to lead the country is actually working to convince Canadians to vote for him, a Forum Research poll has discovered.
The survey found that 32 per cent of Canadians who had seen the ad were now more likely to vote Liberal in the upcoming federal election. The ad is having an adverse effect on NDP supporters as 21 per cent said viewing it made them more likely to support Trudeau.
A majority of NDP supporters polled — 57 per cent — also disagree with the ad’s tagline “Justin Trudeau: He’s just not ready.”
I can’t believe how blatant these Forum people are. That guy at EKOS that the CBC banned has nothing on this crowd.
Cons would be quite happy with this though.
It really is laughable to think that those ads would drive voters from the NDP to the LPC.
It might drive some voters away from the CPC.
As Warren has said, contrast ads are effective if they are based in truth. You could never run those ads against Angry Tom because he has a much more impressive resume than Trudeau.
More likely to vote for him does not mean that they will vote for him. Many NDP supporters are extremely adverse to almost anything the CONS say or do, thus the CONS attacking Trudeau has an Pavlov dog-type, knee-jerk reaction to be in favour of Trudeau. No biggy for Mulcair. More likely is fine. But the headline stating that they are going to vote Liberal as a result is ridiculous.
If you are a low information voter and not aware of the current polls and an anti-Conservative voter, these ads create the perception that the Liberals are the primary opposition to the Conservatives which could cause an NDP supporter to switch to the Liberals to stop the Conservatives.
You know how they live and breathe to weaken as much as possible the broadcasting cartel that is the consortium. It’s all about discrediting national media, who know the Harper government only too well.
No wonder they turned the consortium down re: debates. Letting the consortium control debates means less of a chance to snow viewers with the Conservative narrative on the economy and everything else.
That the Conservatives’ aim is “to weaken as much as possible the broadcasting cartel that is the consortium” is essentially my thesis too. If whatever columnists/journalists are willing to report on rumours about potential news (ridiculous), they deserve the impending humiliation for which their anonymous sources have set them up.
The Connies and their base do not like the media, obviously, and I think it benefits them when they shrewdly make the media look like a bunch of dumb asses, which is how these things play out in my mind.
I don’t like the Conservatives, but I think these kinds of stories are bullshit speculation that isn’t worth the tiniest fraction of the attention they get. So good for the Connies for making the media look stupid when they are being stupid, should it all play out as I suspect.
I still wouldn’t put it past him not to call an election this year. Why call an election in the middle of a recession, the Duffy court case, and when the TPP is at a critical stage?
The first line of the law is “Nothing in this section affects the powers of the Governor General, including the power to dissolve Parliament at the Governor General’s discretion.”
The Governor General is constatutionally bound to listen to the advance of the Prime Minister (as long as he maintains the confidence of parliament) which is how Harper called the 2008 election earlier then the law stated and its how he could dely calling it. The law is really more of a guildline because it can’t override the constatution.
Well played sir. Ramp up that paranoia, facts be damned:
“As set forth in the Canada Elections Act,[2][3] a general election is to be held on the third Monday of October in the fourth calendar year following the polling day for the preceding general election.[4] As such, the election for the 42nd Canadian parliament is to take place on October 19, 2015.”
Do you understand how leaks work?
Yes. Do you know how the CBC works? George Carlin’s, “I calls ’em as I sees ’em and if I don’t sees ’em I makes ’em up” routine, I think, was based on CBC’s political reporting.
Leak on himself?
The man’s only 56.
Urinary incontinence typically occurs much later in life.
Why not… the 2006 income trust leak that switched us from a Liberal minority to a Conservative minority was worked through an NDP candidate.
Let’s keep in mind that the Liberals could’ve ousted Harper in 2008, but instead chose to prop him up by voting for all his odious legislation. (Trudeau actually voted in favor of mandatory minimum sentences on people growing a few pot plants back in 2009.)
Unfortunately, Trudeau has learned nothing from this experience that decimated the Liberal party in the 2011 election. He has ruled out working with the centrist NDP leader Tom Mulcair, citing “fundamental differences.” But has no problem propping up another Harper minority.
Hopefully Canadians will know what they are voting for this election. 66% want Harper gone. Trudeau is more interested in representing the 34%, not to mention corporations and Chinese oligarchs.
If you actually look at the breakdown of that 66% who want a change in government it follows the provincial support breakdown.
As an example, the Conservatives are weak in the Atlantic – 75% in the Atlantic provinces said it’s time for change. Not a suprise.
And remember, in Ontario 74% said they wanted a change from the Wynne Liberals. They were returned to power with a majority.
Change for the sake of change can also be a change for the worse. Why would Canadians want a new inexperienced government in these uncertain and challenging times? Perhaps the devils you know are better than the devils you don’t know. Now if the NDP and LPC had forged a united centre-left party we would be getting the best (or worst?) of both.
The Liberals are tanking with Trudeau and the NDP are a mystery. The CPC attack ads will now define Mulcair and his NDP cohorts. Will Canadians bite or spit out what they are being fed?
Well, if not this Sunday, it’s going to be soon. The CPC have been making all kinds of funding announcements over the last few days, which as far as I know can’t be made after the writ is dropped.
The latest was this afternoon announcing giving Toyota a $58 million loan (Ontario Liberals kicking in $42 million and Toyota investing $421 million) to expand/upgrade their plants in Ontario in exchange for promises in writing the 8,000 plus jobs at Toyota are “safe”
This announcement was reportedly supposed to happen next week.
Election calls have always leaks days before they happen. I guess because hundreads of people need to know ahead of time to get ready.
I was thinking last week that if he calls the election early at least we will get a warning when the news leaks.
Are all 5-6 debates going ahead?
Spot on.
It makes no sense. Had this been an authorized CPC leak it would have been through CTV or the Post.
Why would the Conservatives help out CBC in any way, shape or form?
Well, the NP ran a story just last Thursday citing Conservative party sources that Harper was going to call for the abolition of the Senate the following day.
He didn’t.
Hey Warren, have you seen this little gem from your pals at Forum Research?
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/conservatives-trudeau-attack-ad-is-prompting-ndp-supporters-to-vote-liberal-forum-research-poll
Conservatives’ Trudeau attack ad is prompting NDP supporters to vote Liberal: Forum Research poll
TORONTO — A Conservative Party attack ad targeting Liberal leader Justin Trudeau for being “just not ready” to lead the country is actually working to convince Canadians to vote for him, a Forum Research poll has discovered.
The survey found that 32 per cent of Canadians who had seen the ad were now more likely to vote Liberal in the upcoming federal election. The ad is having an adverse effect on NDP supporters as 21 per cent said viewing it made them more likely to support Trudeau.
A majority of NDP supporters polled — 57 per cent — also disagree with the ad’s tagline “Justin Trudeau: He’s just not ready.”
Of course it is, of course it is. Only in the rosiest-coloured-glasses-world are those ads making mindless dippers switch to Shiny Pony.
The delusion runs deep in this one.
I can’t believe how blatant these Forum people are. That guy at EKOS that the CBC banned has nothing on this crowd.
Cons would be quite happy with this though.
It really is laughable to think that those ads would drive voters from the NDP to the LPC.
It might drive some voters away from the CPC.
As Warren has said, contrast ads are effective if they are based in truth. You could never run those ads against Angry Tom because he has a much more impressive resume than Trudeau.
If you’ve ever been in the position to hire someone, you’d understand that a mere resume is the last thing you should be considering.
Leadership 101.
What a crackpot headline.
More likely to vote for him does not mean that they will vote for him. Many NDP supporters are extremely adverse to almost anything the CONS say or do, thus the CONS attacking Trudeau has an Pavlov dog-type, knee-jerk reaction to be in favour of Trudeau. No biggy for Mulcair. More likely is fine. But the headline stating that they are going to vote Liberal as a result is ridiculous.
What a National Enquirer headline.
If you are a low information voter and not aware of the current polls and an anti-Conservative voter, these ads create the perception that the Liberals are the primary opposition to the Conservatives which could cause an NDP supporter to switch to the Liberals to stop the Conservatives.
A few maybe, NOT 21% (1 in 5).
The line is: The ad is having an adverse effect on NDP supporters as 21 per cent said viewing it made them more likely to support Trudeau.
“more likely” is more than a few circles away in hell from the headline “vote Liberal”
National Enquirer Headline that if I was at the National Post I would be embarrassed of being associated with.
Warren,
You know how they live and breathe to weaken as much as possible the broadcasting cartel that is the consortium. It’s all about discrediting national media, who know the Harper government only too well.
No wonder they turned the consortium down re: debates. Letting the consortium control debates means less of a chance to snow viewers with the Conservative narrative on the economy and everything else.
That the Conservatives’ aim is “to weaken as much as possible the broadcasting cartel that is the consortium” is essentially my thesis too. If whatever columnists/journalists are willing to report on rumours about potential news (ridiculous), they deserve the impending humiliation for which their anonymous sources have set them up.
The Connies and their base do not like the media, obviously, and I think it benefits them when they shrewdly make the media look like a bunch of dumb asses, which is how these things play out in my mind.
I don’t like the Conservatives, but I think these kinds of stories are bullshit speculation that isn’t worth the tiniest fraction of the attention they get. So good for the Connies for making the media look stupid when they are being stupid, should it all play out as I suspect.
Warren is right. The PM wouldn’t give the CBC the time of day. This entire story has smelled rank from the get-go.
I still wouldn’t put it past him not to call an election this year. Why call an election in the middle of a recession, the Duffy court case, and when the TPP is at a critical stage?
Uh… It’s called a Fixed Election Date.
By law — An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act, S.C. 2007, c. 10 — the next election date is cemented: October 19, 2015.
Harper could, however, call it earlier.
The first line of the law is “Nothing in this section affects the powers of the Governor General, including the power to dissolve Parliament at the Governor General’s discretion.”
The Governor General is constatutionally bound to listen to the advance of the Prime Minister (as long as he maintains the confidence of parliament) which is how Harper called the 2008 election earlier then the law stated and its how he could dely calling it. The law is really more of a guildline because it can’t override the constatution.
I do think he will follow the law this time.
Well played sir. Ramp up that paranoia, facts be damned:
“As set forth in the Canada Elections Act,[2][3] a general election is to be held on the third Monday of October in the fourth calendar year following the polling day for the preceding general election.[4] As such, the election for the 42nd Canadian parliament is to take place on October 19, 2015.”
If anything, I’d say they leaked the wrong date to throw opponents off and make the cbc look bad.
Of course! Eels aren’t as slippery. Better be on your toes, or someone else’s, feints all over the place.
It will be on August 16, or thereabouts.