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Trump is the illegitimate president

Not merely because of what he has done since he became president. But also because of what he did during the election.

It has amazed me, for months, that millions of Americans agree that Russia hacked the 2016 US election – but those same Americans somehow believe that the hack was ineffective.  I think that is stupid, basically. If Trump won the presidency with less than 80,000 votes spread over three states, it is frankly idiotic to believe that Russian hacking did not affect the outcome. It did. 

Thus, this Esquire piece. Read it. Key excerpt:

In Illinois, investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data. The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database. Details of the wave of attacks, in the summer and fall of 2016, were provided by three people with direct knowledge of the U.S. investigation into the matter. In all, the Russian hackers hit systems in a total of 39 states, one of them said. The scope and sophistication so concerned Obama administration officials that they took an unprecedented step — complaining directly to Moscow over a modern-day “red phone.” In October, two of the people said, the White House contacted the Kremlin on the back channel to offer detailed documents of what it said was Russia’s role in election meddling and to warn that the attacks risked setting off a broader conflict.

The Obama people, for reasons known only to themselves, did not take any concrete action.  That would turn out to be a fatal error.

There was a massive, coordinated, highly-sophisticated hack. Everyone agrees with that. 

Soon enough, people will also come to believe that the hack worked. 

28 Responses to “Trump is the illegitimate president”

  1. Brian Potts says:

    Donald Trump being president proves the hack worked. How could he win the three states that put him over the top? The extent of the chicanery will surface at some point but too late to fix the issue at hand now. 2018 is the best opportunity for the electorate to effect change.

  2. David Ray says:

    and in the Georgia sixth for Tuesday’s runoff the software was hacked and found to be two years out of date running Drupal but the GOP doesn’t care.
    Some of the best writing is being done by Charles Pierce in Esquire on politics. Amazing stuff and funny as hell.

  3. David Ray says:

    Ezra and Rebel media are now so desperate they are breaking up the performance of Julius Caesar in New York. A new low. Sad.

  4. Gord Tulk says:

    Rubbish. What about the interference in the investigation of HRC during the election? And illegal aliens voting? Etc etc.

    Trump is the president of all of the United States – legitimately so.

    • Ted H says:

      So was Barack Obama, and more legitimately so since his vote margin was without question, but no one on the Right ever accepted that, so why should any thinking person accept the legitimacy of Trump as President.
      There are two kinds of Republicans “millionaires (billionaires) and suckers” I’m glad you are a millionaire Gord or I would seriously question your judgement.

    • David Ray says:

      Confucious say “Man deflecting truth is like man chasing squirrel. Nuts”

    • James Smith says:

      I’m always interested in your comments Mr T. The Republican’s amongst my family & friends are too embarrassed by the man to defend him; so it is always refreshing to learn what those who admit to liking the man have to say. I don’t understand quantum physics, so I’m too weak minded to be able to truly “get” the man. Thanks

      • Gord Tulk says:

        Find a single example of me saying I like Trump.

        • doconnor says:

          You seem willing to humiliate yourself to defend him, so it’s an understandable mistake.

          Keep in mind almost all the people here attacking Trump didn’t really like Clinton either (except for that one guy).

          • Gord Tulk says:

            So you didn’t find a single instance. I’m defending trump based on the facts. Not because I like the guy.

        • James Smith says:

          Oops sill me! So you don’t like the fella? So why defend a politician you don’t like?

          • Gord Tulk says:

            Because I very much agrees with what he’s trying to do: create a freer, greater America. Less unnecessary regulation, lower taxes, courts the rule on rather write laws and a more secure and safe America via a more assertive foreign policy that includes a commitment to annihilate islamism.

          • James Smith says:

            Oh, so you do like the man’s politics

          • doconnor says:

            What about the issue that he is an idiot who doesn’t have the slightest idea how to do any of those things that Gord Tulk lists.

          • Gord Tulk says:

            James I like his policy positions.

            doconnor: he’s done quite a bit so far – scotus appointee; much better foreign policy; paris gone; ditto Dodd frank; lots of regs gone and more to go. The slow walk stuff – tax breaks, getting rid of Obamacare and stimulus all take congress to get it done and it looks pretty good that they are going to cancel the summer recess.

            And NONE of that would be done under HRC.

          • doconnor says:

            He only got a SCOTUS appointment because of the Republican blockade. I’m not sure what major changes have been made in foreign policy. Leaving the Paris was condemned by every country and every business leader around the globe. I’m pretty sure Dodd-Frank removal hasn’t passed the Senate and may not get passed.

            Yes, the Republicans probably would have continued the SCOTUS blockade indefinitely under Clinton.

  5. Ted H says:

    The United States is now like North Korea, it is basically run by a criminal family.

  6. Charlie says:

    The crux of the issue here is the fact that the Russians not only waged a full-throttled campaign to influence the election by means of disinformation, but also gained access to vital voting infrastructure with malicious intent.

    I don’t understand how anyone could consider the election results are being legitimate when the process itself is being proven to be perverted.

    Imagine if the table had been turned and Hilary Clinton had lost the popular vote by millions, but won the Electoral College with the unambiguous interference of a foreign party.

    Honestly, how America hasn’t just devolved into all out pandemonium is beyond me.

  7. Mario says:

    Maybe the Obama administration didn’t do anything regarding the hacking because they thought it would benefit the Democratic Party and the Hillary campaign?

  8. Gord Tulk says:

    “If Trump won the presidency with less than 80,000 votes spread over three states…”

    If trump had won another 80000 votes he would have won four more states and 22 more EC votes beating HRC 328 -210 ; a bigger margin than nixon’s first carter, both the bushes, Kennedy and just a little less than obamas second.

  9. Willie P says:

    And, if your grandmother had wheels, she’d be a bus.

  10. David White says:

    Thanks for the link to the Esquire story. Very very interesting and Charles Pierce is a great writer. It will be interesting to see how this story develops, how much is revealed and if anyone can produce a link back to Trump or Flynn or someone associated with the campaign. The McCartney interview in Esquire is good too, if you like the Beatles.

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