, 06.07.2018 07:26 PM

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28 Comments

  1. Matt says:

    Is the CBC’s Mike Crawley on drugs?

    He seriously said the Liberals ran a good campaign.

  2. Matt says:

    LOL.

    CP24 declaring PC victory 13 minutes after the polls close.

  3. Peter Seville says:

    I hope Dug changes his mind about defunding the CBC.

  4. Ned Ludd says:

    Doug Ford, you magnificent bastard!!!…

  5. Steve T says:

    What is interesting, at least at the time of this writing (9:50 pm ET) is that the “latte-sipping Liberal” of near-downtown Toronto has become the latte-sipping Dipper.

    Clearly the PCs have a majority across the province, but I’m curious as to why near-downtown Torontonians are so detached from reality. Perhaps because the policies they support (via the NDP) won’t really affect them directly?

    • doconnor says:

      Population density means policies they oppose (via the Conservatives) will effect people they see everyday on the street. That’s why they vote for the party mostly likely to stop the Conservatives (But vote NDP when the Conservatives are less threatening).

      • Pedant says:

        That makes no sense. Almost nobody in downtown Toronto even knows the names of his or her neighbours, let alone cares about them.

        Downtown Toronto however has lots of public sector workers hoping to continue the theft of private sector productivity to fuel their own obscene benefits.

    • Kinsey says:

      Steve T, have you considered how the first-past-the-post system wildly distorts voter preferences?

      The PCs received a mere 7% greater share of the total overall popular vote than the NDP, yet they’ve secured nearly double the NDP’s number of seats in the legislature.

      The NDP, Liberal and Green combined share of the total popular vote (around 58%) exceeds the PCs by about a 17% margin – yet together, they have 29 fewer seats than the PCs.

      The reality is that “near-downtown Torontonians” aren’t so different than the broader electorate – it’s that the electoral system distorts preferences to such an extent that it seems like they’re “detached”, when that’s not the case.

      • RKJ says:

        Proportional representation is for losers. First past the post provides executive leadership and government. Losers can regroup and reconnect with voters. First past the post generally pushes parties closer to the middle of the political spectrum.

        Proportional representation leaves countries floating with multiple fringe parties who don’t like each other and yet must try and form a government together.

        First past the post provides the best way of choosing a government within an imperfect, but best than all the others, world of democracy.

        • doconnor says:

          Those mere 59.5% of voters are all losers!

          • RKJ says:

            So, the Greens won 5%, Liberals 19% & the NDP 35%. This 59% would have won, if they chose before the election to form a coalition and run only one candidate in each riding. Which party did you support? Might you have agreed to have chaired the committee tasked with selecting the candidate, from the 3 parties, to run in each riding?

            Any chance candidates not chosen by your committee might have formed off-shoot parties (“new liberals”, “reformed NDP” etc.) and ran anyway?

          • doconnor says:

            I support proportional representation, which gives voters more choice, not merging parties to remove voter choice.

        • Fred from BC says:

          Absolutely agree. How many of the politically paralyzed, inefficient and ineffective European governments are now thinking like New Zealand (on others) and regretting the decision to move to a PR system? Once you have it, and the fringe\protest\single-issue parties have experienced power for the first time, there is *no way* to change the system again…they simply won’t allow it.

          My own personal preference has always been for ‘run off’ elections (not sure if that’s the proper term); anyone with 50%+ is declared elected, and if not, the top two run against each other again to determine the final winner. ‘Preferential balloting’ would be my next choice because apparently there is the possibility of everyone’s second choice winning (?) . In other words, everyone gets to vote for their candidate of choice, and if that candidate doesn’t win you then get to switch your vote to a second choice. More representative than FPTP but without the destructive aspects of the true PR system.

  6. Al in Cranbrook says:

    Fantastic!
    Trudeau’s carbon tax is in for a helluva rough ride!

  7. Matt says:

    Looks like Warren won the Daisy pool.

    Drug tests for Ashley and Tom!

  8. Ronald O'Dowd says:

    Warren,

    Here are my bits and pieces:

    First, you’re only as good as your last prediction and I completely blew it – – there goes the streak.

    You know more than I do that all cabinets and ordinary members are lap dogs. They have no balls and self-interest prevents them from taking on the leader. There’s your answer. And it never changes.

    15 years is a long time. To expect to win another term even with the Almighty as leader is excessively optimistic. It’s simply not healthy for democracy after 10 years in office.

    Now to the disgusting: voter turnout. No excuse for only 51%.

    The voters have spoken and they are always right. I would have never voted PC but Ford is to be congratulated.

    The NDP should have been the progressive choice. However, they were not automatically entitled to be that choice. Big difference, Dippers.

    Wynne is absolutely right about passing the torch to the next generation. But that will look farcical if they don’t find some way to ditch that delegated convention.

    Finally, populism didn’t win tonight. That’s not the real political earthquake. Right-wing populism is the actual force sweeping across North America and Europe.

    P. S. And congrats to that Warren guy, one hell of a strategist!

    • Matt says:

      Voter turnout province wide was about 58%.

      Some regions closer to 60%

      • Ronald O'Dowd says:

        Thanks, Matt.

        Better but still more work to do by the parties.

        How I wish more people would do their civic duty…

    • Pedant says:

      The NDP should have attempted bold policies like abolishing the separate school board or proposing electoral reform (and pointing out how the Liberals in Ottawa reneged). Instead they simply tried to out-Liberal the Liberals on every issue, and that doesn’t succeed in driving voters to the polls.

  9. SodaClub says:

    Warren, you generally drive me crazy with your more-progressive-than-me view, but if you have access and connection to DoFo this conservative would appreciate it if you could help him “stay on target”. Thanks in advance.

  10. David Ray says:

    Well done Ontario. You just elected a fire hydrant wearing a suit. All you have to do now is grab your ankles and prepare to get hosed bigly by a blue nozzle for the next five years.

    • Pedant says:

      I imagine public sector workers and their mafia unions will be upset to see their obscene benefits decline ever so slightly. A little less caviar in the teachers’ lounge. Guess that counts as “hosed”. The private sector workers who actually produce everything in the province will have a reprieve for a few years.

      Don’t worry, eventually the Libs or NDP will achieve government again and the whole cycle will begin anew.

      • doconnor says:

        Not the many private sector workers earning minimum wage or the ones with “temp” jobs. Maybe the “productive” ones like investment bankers.

  11. Peter says:

    Standing by in five…four…three…two…

    “Racism! Sexism! Homophobia! Angry old white guys! Stupid people!!”

    • Robert White says:

      The Angry Old White Guys PC Party is stupid, I agree. And they are misogynists, homophobes, sexist, and racist anathema.

      Glad I voted Liberal so I don’t have to feel responsible for fucking Ontario up over the next term.

      Ford’s luck will not save Ontario or ameliorate the debt conundrum.

      Go get em’, Doug!!!!

      RW

      • Matt says:

        And the Liberals fucking up Ontario the last 15 years? You say Ford will not “ameliorate the debt conundrum”. So you recognize the debt is a problem, but you voted for a party who planned to keep piling tens of billions of dollars onto the debt.

        Don’t know what the final numbers will be, we’ll have to wait for their post election analysis, but most pollsters who polled such categories had the OPC winning the “minority” vote.

        I went to two Ford events and I can tell you as a white guy, I was the minority at both.

        • Peter says:

          most pollsters who polled such categories had the OPC winning the “minority” vote.

          They don’t care whether that’s true or not, Matt. R. Ford won the non-white vote, but that didn’t stop the progs from whining about their favourite isms and phobias throughout his term. They are so heavily invested in all the components of the “deplorables” meme that I’m afraid nothing short of a generational change will their thinking.

        • doconnor says:

          Based on the platforms, the PCs had the highest deficit.

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