The Liberal Party of Canada fixation/obsession with this getting a UNSC seat is really weird.
The whole campaign also seems to animate these people — let’s call them “delusional losers” — who have a completely inflated view of Canada’s actual relevance and importance in the world. Pssst — we’re not really that important or relevant.
Their “completely inflated view of Canada’s actual relevance and importance” is directly proportional to their belief in themselves. They are drunk on the Kool-Aid. Canadian values are Liberal values, and no others will be heard or tolerated. They would rather close down responsible government (Parliament) than deign answer to anyone who dare questions them.
The world’s elite has looked down on Canada, its Liberal government, and its tawdry UNSC campaign, and said “thank you for your donation.”
Well said. Sadly, we really aren’t anymore…..It’s still the best place on earth to live, bar none….but important or relevant?….pffft…which saddens me, because at one time, not so long ago, we were.
Never was much of a Harper fan myself but this strikes me more as an exercise in silly putty logic. Stretch it until they believe. Doubt they will though.
“Many countries had committed their vote before Canada’s entry”.
Really? You actually believe that? Must have been Harper’s fault!!! I don’t know any intelligent leadership who would actually lock in their vote four years in advance.
More likely explanation? Countries took a look at a virtue signalling, narcissistic hypocrite, who likes to play dress up; who’s chief claim to fame is his daddy’s name and his socks, and said “no thanks Canada, get a serious adult as leader and we’ll listen.
In addition world leaders realize Trudeau makes lots of promises and generally doesn’t deliver, for example peace keeping.
Mike, I don’t hate Trudeau, I judge him on what he says, and more importantly what he does, or doesn’t do.
1. Trudeau promised he would set a new standard of “openness” and “transparency” for his government. How many ethics violations has Mr Open Honest and Transparency had?
Re SNC Lavalin: Trudeau and his government have maintained that nothing improper happened, but the scandal saw the prime minister lose two members of his cabinet, his principal adviser, and the clerk of the Privy Council. The Liberals also routinely used their majority to shut down further lines of parliamentary inquiry into the affair. Open, Honest, and Transparent Trudeau?
2. Justin Trudeau promised to balance the federal budget by 2019. Oops. He’s still waiting for the budget to balance itself?
3. Trudeau said the 2015 election would be the last using “first past the post” balloting and would be replaced with some form of proportional representation. He has abandoned this promise.
4. Justin Trudeau promised to reinstate a lifelong disability pension for veterans. Oops, Trudeau told Veterans they are asking for more than the government can afford.
5. Trudeau’s 2015 election platform — which promised that MPs “must be free represent their communities and hold the government to account” — and then contrast it to the vote that closed down Parliament until the fall. It sends the message that he is not entirely dependable.
6. The Liberals promised to end what they called the improper use of omnibus bills. Another all talk no action.
7. During the 2015 election, Trudeau promised an increase of $125-billion in infrastructure spending over 10 years. Catherine McKenna can’t seem to find details on 20,000 or so projects. Where’s the money going?
8. Trudeau the feminist: Perhaps we should ask Jody Wilson-Raybould, Jane Philpott, Celina Caesar-Chevannes, Leona Alleslev, for their opinions.
9. Trudeau promised more peace keeping efforts and has delivered next to nothing.
10. Trudeau was elected on a pledge to “help the world’s poor.” Yet, overseas development assistance has actually slipped as a percentage of gross national income since the Harper government years to just 0.27 per cent. That compares to 0.31 per cent for the Irish and 1.02 per cent for the Norwegians.
11. Blackface. Justin won’t tell us how many times he wore blackface. Dressing up in costumes as PM? His India trip was an embarrassment.
World leaders notice things like these. Too bad Liberals don’t.
If Trudeau used this argument that he only had 4.5 years to prepare for the vote,
Then why did the Liberals get mad at Harper when he only had 4.5 years to prepare for the vote.
What I never understood about this whole bid for security council seat is the following: Why were we trying to compete with Ireland and Norway, both strong allies of ours, years into the competition and after they had established themselves as the front runners?
They are talking about changing the name of the Laurier Club. They should. It is completely improper to besmirch the reputation of Sir Wilfred Laurier to raise money for a walking bag of slime like Justin Trudeau.
That’s another thing that really pisses me off. There were instances in which our foreign policy was being compromised and distorted, and we were sucking up to horrible people and regimes, just to advance this stupid Liberal Party vanity project. It’s disgraceful.
It would appear UN delegates dislike M. Trudeau as much as they did Mr. Harper.(To be fair, Canada got more votes under Harper than they did with Trudeau, I understand).
I understand that the Canadian government now gives less foreign aid and spends less on peacekeeping than under Stephen Harper. That’s not the right direction for gaining a seat on the UN Security Coucil.
Were we actually ever a serious competitor to begin with? Both Ireland and Denmark had solid bids that they were well into long before Canada jumped in.
There is ample evidence that a lesson should be learned.
The question remains, will it be learned by the student?
The past is a good indicator of future behaviour.
Twice found guilty of breach of ethics.
The sacking of an AG that would not do his bidding.
Was there a lesson to be learned after those events?
Did he learn them?
The means test will be if they blame someone else.
The details are there to correct at your leisure and I have no offence if you do.
My point was less about the details and an expression that if the past behaviour is a prediction of future events, the lesson will be ignored.
O’Toole sure blew himself up last night when he jumped down MacKay’s throat about the F-35. Erin knows how the selection process works, the timelines and the limited authority of the Defence Minister. He knows full well that Peter couldn’t fast track the process.
Wasn’t O’Toole sitting right there in cabinet as Veterans Affairs Minister? Did he object in cabinet and/or caucus that the process was too slow or perhaps not exclusive? Did he resign from cabinet in protest? Did he criticize MacKay’s handling of the file publicly?
Nope, I like Erin and he could be a good leader but it’s simply not even remotely credible to go after Peter now on the F-35 when he was sitting right across from MacKay at the same cabinet table. Notice how O’Toole didn’t bring it up tonight? Well, there you go.
Exactly. If we lose a bid for a UNSC seat when Harper is PM, then it’s all Harper’s fault and it’s because the entire international community hates Harper.
If we lose a bid for a UNSC when Trudeau is PM, then it’s all Harper’s fault and it’s because the entire international community still hates Harper.
Liberal Party of Canada and associated fluffer logic.
The problem is that this kind of bullshit goes on on a regular basis and the average voter does not have the brain power to see it unless they are hit over the head with it. Sent an email to Vassey at P and P to get her to ask one of her said asshole buds at the G and M about this journalistic nonsense but not optimistic she will follow through.
But in fine form Liberal logic, it had to be a conspiracy against Canada, with bad old Harper secretly brewing Yankee beer or Bourbon. Treasonous! Vote Liberal.
Wednesday night ended well for the Liberals.
Singh, another dismal performance yesterday.
Conservatives’ French-language leadership debate: a total Gong Show.
In keeping with the hypocrisy shown by the Trudeau government on so, so many other examples, I look forward to hearing how losing an election to the Security Council was totally unacceptable when Harper did it…but perfectly acceptable and understandable when Trudeau does it.
Unfortunately, he will learn nothing from this.
He MAY be subdued for a period, but it won’t last.
The mask will slip, and Trudeau will show his true arrogant face.
Bingo. A lot of people in this country need to interact more regularly with people from minority communities. It will be like that first coffee in the morning, awakening and truly eye opening.
Team O’Toole has asked several police forces to investigate alleged thefts supposedly by Team MacKay operatives, of campaign videos, including phone calls to members.
Those allegations have been denied by MacKay’s people. All I can say is that I know Peter and he would go ballistic pronto if any of this was actually true. He would never participate in any kind of coverup so the entire episode makes me wonder what kind of alleged evidence has already been turned over to police services. I will leave it to the various police forces to confirm whether any of this is even remotely credible and whether they have enough to consider opening investigations. We should all find out from them pretty quickly what this is all about and whether police action is warranted or not.
The Liberal Party of Canada fixation/obsession with this getting a UNSC seat is really weird.
The whole campaign also seems to animate these people — let’s call them “delusional losers” — who have a completely inflated view of Canada’s actual relevance and importance in the world. Pssst — we’re not really that important or relevant.
Their “completely inflated view of Canada’s actual relevance and importance” is directly proportional to their belief in themselves. They are drunk on the Kool-Aid. Canadian values are Liberal values, and no others will be heard or tolerated. They would rather close down responsible government (Parliament) than deign answer to anyone who dare questions them.
The world’s elite has looked down on Canada, its Liberal government, and its tawdry UNSC campaign, and said “thank you for your donation.”
Well said. Sadly, we really aren’t anymore…..It’s still the best place on earth to live, bar none….but important or relevant?….pffft…which saddens me, because at one time, not so long ago, we were.
To paraphrase Trudeau; “Canada’s back, yep way back.”
Today the rest of the world sent team Trudeau a message that they don’t want any virtue lectures from the hypocrite in chief, Justin Trudeau.
Now will Justin return to isolation in his cottage, or will he go off for a summer at his dacha.
Mike,
Yeah, but Harper actually got to the second round of voting in 2010. Trudeau, not so much.
Mike,
Never was much of a Harper fan myself but this strikes me more as an exercise in silly putty logic. Stretch it until they believe. Doubt they will though.
I’ll bite. Show us three international news service stories that prove that statement.
Last I checked Harper gets better receptions than Trudeau does in places like India and Japan.
But if he is as reviled as you say that should be easy for you right?
Wow. You remind me of how Trump and his supporters blame Obama for anything that goes wrong.
“Many countries had committed their vote before Canada’s entry”.
Really? You actually believe that? Must have been Harper’s fault!!! I don’t know any intelligent leadership who would actually lock in their vote four years in advance.
More likely explanation? Countries took a look at a virtue signalling, narcissistic hypocrite, who likes to play dress up; who’s chief claim to fame is his daddy’s name and his socks, and said “no thanks Canada, get a serious adult as leader and we’ll listen.
In addition world leaders realize Trudeau makes lots of promises and generally doesn’t deliver, for example peace keeping.
Mike, I don’t hate Trudeau, I judge him on what he says, and more importantly what he does, or doesn’t do.
1. Trudeau promised he would set a new standard of “openness” and “transparency” for his government. How many ethics violations has Mr Open Honest and Transparency had?
Re SNC Lavalin: Trudeau and his government have maintained that nothing improper happened, but the scandal saw the prime minister lose two members of his cabinet, his principal adviser, and the clerk of the Privy Council. The Liberals also routinely used their majority to shut down further lines of parliamentary inquiry into the affair. Open, Honest, and Transparent Trudeau?
2. Justin Trudeau promised to balance the federal budget by 2019. Oops. He’s still waiting for the budget to balance itself?
3. Trudeau said the 2015 election would be the last using “first past the post” balloting and would be replaced with some form of proportional representation. He has abandoned this promise.
4. Justin Trudeau promised to reinstate a lifelong disability pension for veterans. Oops, Trudeau told Veterans they are asking for more than the government can afford.
5. Trudeau’s 2015 election platform — which promised that MPs “must be free represent their communities and hold the government to account” — and then contrast it to the vote that closed down Parliament until the fall. It sends the message that he is not entirely dependable.
6. The Liberals promised to end what they called the improper use of omnibus bills. Another all talk no action.
7. During the 2015 election, Trudeau promised an increase of $125-billion in infrastructure spending over 10 years. Catherine McKenna can’t seem to find details on 20,000 or so projects. Where’s the money going?
8. Trudeau the feminist: Perhaps we should ask Jody Wilson-Raybould, Jane Philpott, Celina Caesar-Chevannes, Leona Alleslev, for their opinions.
9. Trudeau promised more peace keeping efforts and has delivered next to nothing.
10. Trudeau was elected on a pledge to “help the world’s poor.” Yet, overseas development assistance has actually slipped as a percentage of gross national income since the Harper government years to just 0.27 per cent. That compares to 0.31 per cent for the Irish and 1.02 per cent for the Norwegians.
11. Blackface. Justin won’t tell us how many times he wore blackface. Dressing up in costumes as PM? His India trip was an embarrassment.
World leaders notice things like these. Too bad Liberals don’t.
Joe,
I’ll keep it short: if you aren’t already running the CPC war room, no one else but you should be. Man, are you good! You’re better than me.
“Mike ” – that water pail you carry all the time – funny it never gets heavy?
12. Reconciliation. I seem to recall an admission of genocide and then… nothing.
JT seems to have moved onto something with an international audience though so not expecting much to come either.
He cannot go to his dacha, Sophie is living there.
Mike, it is possible to turn thing around even when the other guys had a running head start.
And if JT didn’t think he had a chance, he wouldn’t have stuck his neck out as far as he did.
Grim reality: countries took a long look at JT’s pitch and said: nah.
Ouch.
If Trudeau used this argument that he only had 4.5 years to prepare for the vote,
Then why did the Liberals get mad at Harper when he only had 4.5 years to prepare for the vote.
What I never understood about this whole bid for security council seat is the following: Why were we trying to compete with Ireland and Norway, both strong allies of ours, years into the competition and after they had established themselves as the front runners?
After all the fucking around they did, surely they already had it in the bag? Apparently not.
Perhaps the organizers of the bid were the same who organized M. Trudeau’s India junket?
You have no idea how I hope those same people will be at the head of the majority Liberal re-election juggernaut. What a riot.
(Oh well, back to humble mode.)
They are talking about changing the name of the Laurier Club. They should. It is completely improper to besmirch the reputation of Sir Wilfred Laurier to raise money for a walking bag of slime like Justin Trudeau.
Mike,
You just did.
How much treasure was spend to lose this seat.
That’s another thing that really pisses me off. There were instances in which our foreign policy was being compromised and distorted, and we were sucking up to horrible people and regimes, just to advance this stupid Liberal Party vanity project. It’s disgraceful.
It would appear UN delegates dislike M. Trudeau as much as they did Mr. Harper.(To be fair, Canada got more votes under Harper than they did with Trudeau, I understand).
I understand that the Canadian government now gives less foreign aid and spends less on peacekeeping than under Stephen Harper. That’s not the right direction for gaining a seat on the UN Security Coucil.
Gilbert,
IMHO, it was blackface-brownface that really finished them off.
Canada was toast, once that was disclosed.
Were we actually ever a serious competitor to begin with? Both Ireland and Denmark had solid bids that they were well into long before Canada jumped in.
There is ample evidence that a lesson should be learned.
The question remains, will it be learned by the student?
The past is a good indicator of future behaviour.
Twice found guilty of breach of ethics.
The sacking of an AG that would not do his bidding.
Was there a lesson to be learned after those events?
Did he learn them?
The means test will be if they blame someone else.
Twice?
What planet are you living on. I believe it’s 4 incidents and guilty on 13 counts.
Walt
The details are there to correct at your leisure and I have no offence if you do.
My point was less about the details and an expression that if the past behaviour is a prediction of future events, the lesson will be ignored.
O’Toole sure blew himself up last night when he jumped down MacKay’s throat about the F-35. Erin knows how the selection process works, the timelines and the limited authority of the Defence Minister. He knows full well that Peter couldn’t fast track the process.
Wasn’t O’Toole sitting right there in cabinet as Veterans Affairs Minister? Did he object in cabinet and/or caucus that the process was too slow or perhaps not exclusive? Did he resign from cabinet in protest? Did he criticize MacKay’s handling of the file publicly?
APPARENTLY NOT.
That pretty much says it all, doesn’t it?
Bad blood amongst Tories.
Just like the good old days: Dief v Dalton Camp.
Clark v Mulroney.
Liberals are loving this.
Douglas,
Nope, I like Erin and he could be a good leader but it’s simply not even remotely credible to go after Peter now on the F-35 when he was sitting right across from MacKay at the same cabinet table. Notice how O’Toole didn’t bring it up tonight? Well, there you go.
Remember when I said that Peter was at his best when he did his own thinking? Well, MacKay proved that on his feet tonight.
Boy, Peter’s really firing on all thrusters. May that continue.
I won’t be telling any of you how to vote. But I know who I’m supporting in this race, the guy who’s ready for the job on Day One.
“Trudeau needed to be taught a lesson.” Indeed. But will he learn it? Is he capable of learning it?
It’s not Trudeau who needs to be taught the lesson – it’s the Canadian electorate.
And no – I don’t think they learned anything.
Is anyone going to call out the assholes at the G and M on this nonsense. Today vs 10 years ago.
Canada loses bid for UN Security Council seat
Security Council rejection a deep embarrassment for Harper
Exactly. If we lose a bid for a UNSC seat when Harper is PM, then it’s all Harper’s fault and it’s because the entire international community hates Harper.
If we lose a bid for a UNSC when Trudeau is PM, then it’s all Harper’s fault and it’s because the entire international community still hates Harper.
Liberal Party of Canada and associated fluffer logic.
Martin,
We don’t have to cause anyone with a brain knows it’s pure bullshit. Never sweat the small or patently absurd stuff.
The problem is that this kind of bullshit goes on on a regular basis and the average voter does not have the brain power to see it unless they are hit over the head with it. Sent an email to Vassey at P and P to get her to ask one of her said asshole buds at the G and M about this journalistic nonsense but not optimistic she will follow through.
All together now, ‘It’s all Harper’s Fault’!
“Some people” are saying that COVID-19 originated in Harper’s residence from an ill-fated attempt at brewing beer. Just saying.
Jim,
But in fine form Liberal logic, it had to be a conspiracy against Canada, with bad old Harper secretly brewing Yankee beer or Bourbon. Treasonous! Vote Liberal.
Wednesday night ended well for the Liberals.
Singh, another dismal performance yesterday.
Conservatives’ French-language leadership debate: a total Gong Show.
Easy Street for Team Justin.
In keeping with the hypocrisy shown by the Trudeau government on so, so many other examples, I look forward to hearing how losing an election to the Security Council was totally unacceptable when Harper did it…but perfectly acceptable and understandable when Trudeau does it.
Unfortunately, he will learn nothing from this.
He MAY be subdued for a period, but it won’t last.
The mask will slip, and Trudeau will show his true arrogant face.
Perhaps the UN is the winner here. A Security Council seat has been denied to a self-declared genocidal and systemically racist country.
A country that admits its failures is better then one that doesn’t.
Darwin,
Bingo. A lot of people in this country need to interact more regularly with people from minority communities. It will be like that first coffee in the morning, awakening and truly eye opening.
You really believe Canadians are guilty of genocide?
To quote Inigo Montoya, “I don’t think that word means what you think it means”.
Mike,
Some people are unpleasingly quaint. Others are an afterthought and remarkably, some happen to be both…
Mike,
Why don’t you wait until we have a leader, not to mention an election, before you consign all of us to the ash heap of history.
Don’t worry, I would do the same for you and this government. Not about to write off the Trudeau Liberals just yet. [Keep smiling!]
Team O’Toole has asked several police forces to investigate alleged thefts supposedly by Team MacKay operatives, of campaign videos, including phone calls to members.
Those allegations have been denied by MacKay’s people. All I can say is that I know Peter and he would go ballistic pronto if any of this was actually true. He would never participate in any kind of coverup so the entire episode makes me wonder what kind of alleged evidence has already been turned over to police services. I will leave it to the various police forces to confirm whether any of this is even remotely credible and whether they have enough to consider opening investigations. We should all find out from them pretty quickly what this is all about and whether police action is warranted or not.