, 09.30.2020 07:23 AM

Shitshow analysis, in tweets

Trump came to throw mud and heckle – be himself, in other words. He came to make Joe crack.

Joe didn’t crack. He kept his cool.

He won.

9 Comments

  1. Canny Scott says:

    Trump has said his “very fine people” comment referred not to white supremacists and neo-Nazis but to “people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee — a great general, whether you like it or not.” Some have argued that explanation doesn’t hold up, because Trump referred in that statement to a protest “the night before” when — it was widely reported — white nationalists burned tiki torches and chanted anti-Semitic and white nationalist slogans. We’ll leave it to readers to make up their minds on Trump’s remarks, but Biden’s comment that Trump has “yet once to condemn white supremacy” is not accurate.

    Let’s revisit Trump’s comments in the days after the Charlottesville rally. That rally turned violent, and one person, Heather Heyer, was killed and many others injured, when a man with a history of making racist comments plowed his car into a group of counterprotesters.

    The day of that incident Trump said, “We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. On many sides.” Trump said he had spoken to Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, and “we agreed that the hate and the division must stop, and must stop right now. We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation and true affection — really — and I say this so strongly — true affection for each other.”

    Two days later, on Aug. 14, 2017, Trump issued a statement from the White House, and referred to “KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

    Trump, Aug. 14, 2017: As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.

    And as I have said many times before: No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.

    Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.

    We are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal. We are equal in the eyes of our Creator. We are equal under the law. And we are equal under our Constitution. Those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike at the very core of America.

    • Max says:

      Trump, from the bully pulpit of his Presidency*, his juvenile Twitter account and his state-controlled “White House Press Briefings” (which were really campaign events), called in people to “Liberate” 3 Democrat States. When white guys showed up, in full camouflage, tactical equipment, gloves, AR-15s and glocks, wearing bandanna masks and sunglasses and stood outside the seat of government chamber, your boy Trump smiled that Cheshire cat grin. And said nothing. Had those 4 white domestic terrorists been black….. well we all know how that woulda went down. Anarchists, agitators, looters and rioters are black. The white dudes are Patriots.

      • The Doctor says:

        If you want to know Trump’s real attitude towards African Americans, all you have to do is look up what he did and said re: the Central Park Five. He called for five innocent black men to be put to death for a crime they didn’t commit. Even AFTER they were proven innocent, and he was given the specific opportunity to retract what he said, he doubled down. “nuff said. He is racist scum.

  2. This is Trump’s America. The old United States of Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush I, Reagan and Carter has been thrown on the ash heap of history. That means Trump’s rules in this election — and only his rules — that also means being the best possible piece of shit you can possibly be, with no holds barred even for Jesus Christ, should he show up at one of the remaining debates.

    Sorry Michelle. As much as I love, admire and respect you, you couldn’t be more wrong: it’s either play by the new normal, those despicable Trump rules or lose. So Joe, get your ass in gear and beat Trump the only way you can: outdo and outclass Trump in the going low department. Pull out all the stops, stop at literally nothing and make Trump pay for what he’s done to the United States of America. In short, out excrement Trump and you win. Use the Dukakis playbook, or anything else and you lose in a landslide, much to the discredit of so much of the voting public. gain, this is Trump’s America. God help that pathetic country.

  3. Max says:

    Trump claimed $70,000.00US$ for hairstyling. That stylist is gonna hear “You’re Fired”. All because Warren Kinsella had the audacity to post that photo. Thanks to WK, Canada should expect more tariffs and the end of the world’s longest undefended border.

    That being said, if I were Democrats I’d saturate the market with that photo and link it to Trump’s tax evasion with the banner “Suckers and Losers”.

  4. Pipes says:

    There was nothing funny about it. It was sad, alarming, disappointing, elementary schoolish, internationally embarrassing. Biden, in my view won but it was declaring victory in a shitty ghetto laneway mud wrestling contest at which the best of the worst prevails. The only one clapping is the so called Proud Boys.

    I wish Biden would stop saying “here’s the deal”.
    Its hard to watch the collapse of a great society and history teaches us that all of them eventually crumble.

  5. Gilbert says:

    What we witnessed was not a true debate. It was clear that the president’s strategy was too make Joe Biden lose his temper. To a certain extent, he succeeded. To tell the president to shut up and to refer to him as a clown was unnecessary and completely unprofessional. It was also clear that Joe Biden often looked down at his notes and at times struggled to find his words.

    The president’s conduct was also questionable. We all know that he’s not very polished and not a gentleman. However, I think part of his frustration was the treatment that he receives from much of the media that wants him out of office.

    The president lied about his taxes, but Joe Biden told lies of his own. He said that he doesn’t support the Green New Deal, but Kamala Harris supports it as do many Democrats. He previously said he was against fracking but not he’s for it. He said he doesn’t oppose Amy Coney Barrett, but Kamala Harris has said she opposes her. I can’t name a single Democrat who supports her.

    He refused to say whether he would pack the supreme court, and Chris Wallace failed to press him for an answer. What kind of presidential candidate refuses to answer such a question? The obvious conclusion is that he probably would pack it with Liberals if given the chance. He also lied when he said that reports about Hunter Biden receiving payments from the wife of the mayor of Moscow had been discredited. If the stories have been discredited (people stop believing them), that doesn’t mean that they’re false. It just means that believe think they are. Even CNN couldn’t give any proof that the stories are false.

    CNN criticized the debate and called the president rude. Telling your opponent to shut up is not rude? It’s difficult to evaluate the debate, but I think the president won by a small margin.

    • Gilbert,

      I would put it to you that this election is about Trump versus Biden. Maybe there is something there with Hunter and maybe not but it’s not directly relevant to the election.

      This campaign should be all about Donald and Joe. It’s not, nor should it be about Melania, Don Jr., Ivanka, Eric, Tiffany or Barron. Ditto for Jill, Hunter, Naomi or Ashley.

      Point is, businesswise, are any and all of them pure as the driven snow? That’s a matter for examination and analysis but not directly during a presidential election campaign. But since both sides are hypocrites, they will bring up and likely distort anything about any one of them and get highly convenient amnesia about same as it relates to someone on their own side.

  6. Gilbert says:

    I agree that the election is about Donald Trump versus Joe Biden. The focus should be on the two candidates. However, Joe Biden once said that no one in his family would work at the White House if he were elected.

    The reason for the remarks was probably to remind voters that Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner and other members of the president’s family have important roles in the administration. However, if I’m not mistaken, they’re not paid for their service.

    Why did the president mention Hunter Biden? I think there are two main reasons. One is that he feels that the media has given the stories surrounding Hunter Biden’s lucrative contracts very little attention, and the other is that if the contracts were directly connected to his father’s former role as vice-president, one could say that the son was very much connected to the previous government.

    It’s true that the election is about the two candidates. However, as we all know, politics can be very dirty, and both sides will use many lines of attack. I don’t expect the president to go down without a big fight.

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