No fan of how Duff does business – he thinks everyone is corrupt except him – but this is, like, wow.
My reaction: took them long enough. Also: explains why no TruAnon type ever sued me for accusing them of obstructing justice.
To wit:
OTTAWA – Today, Democracy Watch released the response it received recently to its Access to Information Act (ATIA) filed with the RCMP on July 27, 2022. The RCMP’s response letter, dated May 25, 2023, confirms it is investigating the allegation that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, former Finance Minister Bill Morneau, some members of their staff, and former Clerk of the Privy Council Michael Wernick, obstructed justice by pressuring then-Attorney General Jody Wilson-Raybould to stop the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin in 2018.Attached to the response letter is a 96-page document with 86 pages fully redacted because “this matter is currently under investigation.”
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Wow.
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Warren,
Let’s see PrimeMinisterBullshitTM try and talk his way out of this investigation. I guess Brenda retired at just the right time! Now, she doesn’t have to deal with it.
It proves my instincts were correct to dump the Trudeau Liberals and return to the Conservatives. Quiet satisfaction.
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Respectively Ronald, I can understand a lifelong Liberal giving the dumb-ass a chance but, to everyone else, it should have been patently obvious what we were going to get. And he confirmed it practically right away.
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I don’t understand any lifelong Liberals giving Justin a chance. I don’t understand that one bit. We all knew what a disaster he was going to be during the Leadership contest. Passing up on Marc Garneau… ahem…. long sigh….for that… is a permanent stain on the party.
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Sean-I mean once you had made the mistake of electing him as leader. Garneau would have been my choice, that’s for sure.
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Martin,
I left the party in 2009 because I could not agree with so many of Harper’s positions. He was a little too right wing for me. He did not check those natural impulses long before 2015 and so the CPC got what it got in 2015. Trudeau didn’t so much win. It was more like Harper lost. That’s why Harper took sole responsibility for the loss on election night as he should and to his credit.
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Ronald, fine on the 2011 election but it is incomprehensible to me how any non Liberal could have voted for them in 2015 when they put a clear idiot in charge. Even Liberals like Sean could see that. Now, to me, it was a binary choice but anyone who didn’t view it that way should have either stayed home or voted for Mulcair(my second choice but still an unforgivable one(made by Coyne) if you were actually a conservative because it was really a vote for Justin).
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Liberals completely lost the plot with this one. The moment JWR and JP left cabinet, the rest of cabinet needed to follow their principled example and dump the leader. There was no excuse in allowing Justin to continue on as leader into the 2019 election. Every moment after that has been a betrayal of the Liberal Party.
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It’s about time!! Those RCMP wheels turn MUCH TOO SLOWLY, especially when the PM and his Lib cabal are trying to hide their nefarious actions, and pulling the wheels of justice in another direction!!
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Does anyone really believe anything is going to result from this investigation?
I predict the RCMP will soon announce the investigation is closed and no charges will be laid.
Possible exception; if someone violates cabinet confidentiality then there might be charges. But is testimony from someone who has violated cabinet confidentiality allowed in court?
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Peter,
I imagine it would be like lawyer-client privilege which can’t be pierced unless the info is related to the planning or commission of a crime. A judge would have to rule on that. Suddenly a voir dire comes to mind but I haven’t been in a criminal law class for forty years.
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Ha…not too far off.
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And we are so smug about T up here. The Truanon groupies have elected these clowns TWICE since this happened and they could very well be stupid enough to do it again.
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Anyone else having trouble accessing the Democracy Watch site? The error I get suggests DW has only a limited number of hits/access allowed, and they have exceeded it.
I’m hopeful this story is picked up by the media soon, and explored more thoroughly. ATIA requests like this should get pretty rapid traction, you’d think.
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I guess this bumps Mendicino’s shuffle to another
portfolio right off the front page just-in time for
summer break of Parliament, eh.
And it’s amazing how fast the RCMP reads the
evidence these days, too.
Taxpayers must feel comforted knowing Dudley Do-right is on the job.
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Warren,
RCMP now says evidence did not meet charge threshold. That statement should instill confidence in our public institutions.
But this isn’t the end, not by a longshot.
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I don’t know what the heck is going on but the RCMP is saying they have closed their investigation into political interference but there are no references to an ongoing obstruction of justice investigation. Is there a difference? This all sounds like weaselly Law Dude language to me.
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Unexpected and unanticipated shoes have a way of showing up and then dropping with considerable effect. That’s what I expect here.
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The investigation is concluded.
This matter is currently under investigation.
Like Team Trudeau the RCMP can’t get their stories (lies?) straight.
Good thing Jagmeet Singh is keeping Trudeau honest! Please don’t snort your coffee reading this.
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Nothing to see here Warren, move along.
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Warren,
We may never have Mulroney’s political acumen leading to back-to-back majority governments but at the same time we can avoid his serious lapses in judgment, the latest of which was on display at StFX.
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Mad cow?
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Ronald, there’s always been a split in the conservatives party – Mulroney, with an eye on his place in history, wants to distance himself from the ugliness of the Poilievre crowd and it’s radical version of conservatism. They won’t be remembered fondly.
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Funny-nice try-you don’t do it by praising the current dumbass PM. I am going with my version.
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The split is actually between the Laurentian Elite and all others. See Frankie, Davey, Barton, etc. etc.
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Curious V,
I’m cast in cement on Mulroney’s side of the party (a distinct and shrinking minority), and I would never condone those remarks. It was way beyond pathetic. Has Mulroney been on Mars since 2015? Jesus Christ, way beyond being patently ridiculous.
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Well, Ronald, I often wonder why a person as balanced as you would support Poilievre. I think Mulroney is thinking about his legacy, and he wants to separate himself from Trump, Daniel Smith and Poilievre. Conservatives, in recent years, have swayed to the extreme right, and Mulroney just wants to be on the right side of history – distancing himself from that crowd.
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Curious, I wonder why someone who seems to have come up the hard way doesn’t see the Laurentian Elite for what they are(a bunch of overrated insiders just like in business trying to maintain the status quo) and Mulroney is one of them. Or he has the mad cow-my working theory.
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I didn’t come up the hard way, I came up working hard. That’s how we were raised – immigrants working their asses off – my mother as a registered nurse, and my dad as a farmer, business man. We owned a number of businesses, and a farm, so we worked hard the whole way through, but it didn’t feel like we were brought up the hard way, we were just brought up working hard.
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I did have a lot of challenges in life, but I was always able to overcome them. I was born with severe asthma, but I still managed to be an all-star athlete. Asthma so severe it was probably the worst in the province I grew up in, hospitalized regularly. I remember getting out of the hospital, and against my parents wishes the coach put me in, and I scored three goals. We won 3 nothing, all scored in the second half of the game, having been benched for health reasons during the first half. So I could overcome anything – it was cancer that really did it. Being diagnosed with cancer, I overcame that too. in terms of health, but I couldn’t overcome entrenched cultural ignorance, and backwardness – so it devastated me financially – so I do know the hard way, but I was raised and brought up the right way. The hard way to me would be if your parents couldn’t provide food and clothing – I really feel for the poor who can’t afford the basics, something I had never understood until I was sick with cancer, and unable to work.
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Given the question I asked which you didn’t answer, that is a distinction without a difference.
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We know they are lying.
They know they are lying.
They know that we know that they are lying.
We know that they know that we know that they know they are lying.
And still … they continue to lie.
Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn
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The RCMP basically admitted they lied, re their response to the freedom of information request.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/rcmp-admits-it-wrongly-denied-releasing-records-on-snc-lavalin-affair
Can we trust the RCMP? Or are they now just like ‘the most transparent government ever?
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Peter,
The Chinese thing is mincemeat compared to SNC Lavalin; sooner rather than later, those chickens will finally come home to roost for this asshole.
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This is far overdue. Political interference in criminal cases is NEVER acceptable, no matter who does it.
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Eric,
This is a two-sided coin: “Political interference in criminal cases is NEVER acceptable” but that comes with police interference in criminal cases at the behest of top officers and a given government. Let’s look at that one shall we, before we conclude that closing this investigation is “overdue.”
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In short, I won’t go for the RCMP investigating the conduct of the RCMP.