, 08.06.2023 11:08 AM

KINSELLACAST 272: Shiller, Lilley on the Felon in Chief! Plus: Scowl, Bully, Grumpster and Jeff Rosenstock!

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  1. Douglas W says:

    Gavin Newsom, waiting in the weeds.
    He’ll be the Dems presidential candidate in 2024.
    Curious: no mention of RFK Jr.
    He’s got momentum, and polling strong among independents. Makes Biden/Democrat hierarchy nervous.
    Many polls exclude RFK Jr.

    PMJT: dogged by his insincerity; out-of-touch comments and decisions (on housing; buying 9 aircrafts to replace 5); diminishing concerns about crime; weak cabinet.
    Looking like he’s bent on taking the party over the cliff with him.
    He wouldn’t do that, would he?

    • Douglas,

      With respect, Newsom is nothing more than a radical left-wing tax and spend Democrat. What was it that I heard about California being the most highly taxed state in the Union? If that’s accurate then a nominee Newsom doesn’t have the electoral chance of a snowball in hell.

    • Cory says:

      What you have to understand is that Trudeau is fundamentally not an intelligent man. Like, at all. That will be his biggest legacy as PM. So obviously he’s stupid enough to lead his party off of a cliff.

      • diana says:

        you must be a right winger the insulting lies you come up with that is why I do not like conservatives. /Republicans ……they never say what there policies are only good for calling the opponents insulting names. In my83 yrs of living never once have voted for the Conservatives, only NDP and Lib. Conservatives are haters. Just like their counter parts in the USA Republicans are so mean and biggest liars ever. Dumb too.

    • Martin Dixon says:

      Dems underestimate JFK Jr at their peril. He will attract T supporters and those still dumb enough to fall for the ridiculous Camelot mystique.

      • Douglas W says:

        To his credit, RFK Jr. (not JFK Jr.) does not play the Camelot card. Proof: watch him on YouTube.
        RFK Jr. talks about matters that resonate with everyday Americans: a divided country; runaway cost of living; corporate socialism; measures that undermine and hurt farmers, small business people.

        RFK Jr. says he has 150,000-plus volunteers. If that’s true, then he’s a force to be reckoned with.
        Time is on his side.
        The same cannot be said for Trump + Biden.

  2. Curious V says:

    Hard to believe they’re tied. Biden and Trump – tied in national polls. One media stream obsessing about Hunter Biden, and trying to drag President Biden into it, and the other reporting on Trumps troubles. That they’re tied speaks volumes about the divide in that country, and the bias in media – the right wing media as apologists for Trumps transgressions, and targeting Biden with every breath, and the moderate media reporting actual news.

    • Martin Dixon says:

      So naive. You likely didn’t think that there was any way T could win in 2016 when it was obvious he would after Brexit. Carry on.

    • Martin Dixon says:

      You are naive. Of course they are tied. It was obvious to anyone who understood what was going on that T would win after the Brexit vote. It doesn’t matter what you think of him, that is the reality. The fact that the dem candidate is a Potemkin candidate is not helpful.

      • Curious V says:

        It’s amazing to me how many people fall victim to brainwashing.

        • Martin Dixon says:

          Where have you been since 2015?

          • Curious V says:

            Brainwashing predates 2015, and its increased presence is a symptom of right-wing bias. It’s become an epidemic on social media, and the internet, acting as a gateway, and that’s forced, to compete for viewers, already right-wing media like fox news to the fringe. They’re bonkers, but it’s largely driven by more extreme competition from the internet. They have to be extreme to retain their audience share because the internet acts as a conduit for extreme propaganda that manipulates huge swaths of the population.

          • Martin Dixon says:

            You obviously missed the significance of the year 2015. Let me help:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Canadian_federal_election

            Couple of small edits.

            “Brainwashing predates 2015, and its increased presence is a symptom of LEFT AND right-wing bias. It’s become an epidemic on social media, and the internet, acting as a gateway, and that’s forced, to compete for viewers, already LEFT AND right-wing media like CNN AND fox news to the fringe. They’re bonkers, but it’s largely driven by more extreme competition from the internet. They have to be extreme to retain their audience share because the internet acts as a conduit for extreme propaganda that manipulates huge swaths of the population.”

            You are making your own point. I can see it and you can’t.

            “Brainwashing is said to reduce its subject’s ability to think critically or independently, to allow the introduction of new, unwanted thoughts and ideas into their minds,[1] as well as to change their attitudes, values, and beliefs”

  3. Warren,

    The analogy between the Old Man in 1980 and Trudeau now is of course relevant and theoretically possible. Sad to say that the Clark government came off as a bunch of bunglers and that played no small role in their defeat. Trudeau was among so many other things, an arrogant asshole but no one could dispute his competence as prime minister. IMHO, that’s the key here that turns this analogy into a case of apples and oranges. Justin Trudeau, at the best of times, is nothing more than a court jester.

    • Martin Dixon says:

      Not to mention that he actually LOST to said bunglers after the split. I don’t think it played any role. People didn’t used to throw their vote away. But I agree that this could firm up those silly Toronto widow retired civil servants as ludicrous as that sounds. .

    • Douglas W says:

      Ronald: correct.
      Joe bungled his way out of office.
      Far too many missteps in a very short period of time.

      PET: competent as a PM?
      Many in his caucus couldn’t stand his arrogance and condescension, and so they quit: Kierans, LaMarsh, Richardson, Turner, Macdonald, and so on.
      Furthermore, his reckless government spending was draining the treasury.

      As for Justin, he yearns for attention; must always be in the limelight.
      He’s forgotten how to act like a PM. Now, he’s like a kid.
      Look at me. Look at me.
      Folks grew tired of PET. The same is holding true for his son.
      Meanwhile, the country awaits his exit.

      • Martin Dixon says:

        Last night I got sent a pic by someone. Justin with some random person at the Barbie movie. Even asked said person who was in the pic with Justin. He said he didn’t know. Today, of course, the twitterverse is now exploding with it. I had no idea what his oldest son looked like and had zero interest in that and the memo we all got to leave his kids out of everything made perfect sense to me but the memo must have been amended or it was a parody account-it wasn’t. Didn’t he literally ask for privacy for him and his kids just 4 days ago? WTAF?

        • Martin Dixon says:

          More on this and the response. Our dumbass PM knew EXACTLY how that pic would be received. He is trolling conservatives and many are falling for the bait. But the actual story should be that the prick has coldly used his son for his own political purposes(in both languages) and he is exposing him to the crap being posted in response. Kid still should be protected but his asshole of an old man didn’t get the memo. The brainwashed Truanons, as Curious V describes them, will all miss that subtlety, of course.

  4. Warren,

    The Trudeaus won’t be divorcing. The aggrieved party has more than one reason why that party is aggrieved. And then the other party was also aggrieved, to some extent. In Quebec, it would be all private and off the record but would the laundry remain private in Ontario Family Court?

  5. Warren,

    The important part of the alternate electors’ story is that an elector chosen to represent their state is duty-bound by legislation to propose certification of the actual results. Team Trump successfully managed to come up with an alternative slate of electors bound to him. But the main point of the story is this: in no state did Republic Secretarys-of-State agree to certify as legitimate that alternate slate of Trump electors. That finished off Trump’s last gasp of holding on to the presidency. It left him with only one option: martial law and even the Trump people did not see that as being in any way legitimate, not to mention constitutional.

  6. As for the protective order, I hope the judge issues it but you know how Americans are bonkers over the First Amendment. That could conceivably seriously weigh into the equation, especially with Trump already running as a bona fide candidate for the Republican nomination. So, in my estimation, it’s not more than 50-50 that the judge will issue such an order subsequent to the Justice Department’s request.

  7. Martin Dixon says:

    Grumspter track a banger. Must be a repeat. Not sure why else I would have it.

  8. Martin Dixon says:

    Respectively, I don’t think the comparison to PET works. First of all, he lost the first election after his split. But, forget that, PET came across as the sympathetic victim given his wife’s erratic beahaviour after the split. Anyone who believes that Justin is the victim in this case is NEVER going to vote conservative anyway because they are, basically, nutty cult members.

  9. As for Pence, he’s stuck between a rock and a hard place: he performed his constitutional duty as Senate President on January 6th during the joint session. That pissed off to the extreme MAGA Republicans. And if that wasn’t enough, he’s trying to have his cake and eat it too as a presidential candidate. Towing that fine line pleases no one in the party. Either you take Trump on as Christie has or you shut the hell up. Wishy-washy middle grounders win no respect much less support from any Republican.

  10. January 6, 1981

    Vice President Walter F. Mondale at his finest (31:50):

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?200573-1/joint-session-congress

  11. Martin Dixon says:

    People keep talking about the John Tory analogy. If we find out he has been getting a leg up with some staffer, we should all know and he should face the consequences(likely wouldn’t but I digress). If anyone is actually digging into that sort of coming and going, I would rather know if he has been or is getting a leg up with a Cabinet Minister. He has a position of power over them and Cabinet Ministers get an extra 92,800 in pay. That is bad enough but he is dragging the whole country into that nonsense. Some have basically named one by name with a name on this site. Based on the qualifications and her handling of her role, that is the only explanation that makes any sense.

  12. Martin,

    First, the old mushroom head. What’s next? Something underwhelming? LOL.

  13. Martin Dixon says:

    An article in the news feed from this site:

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-s-new-house-leader-wants-question-period-to-become-an-hour-canadians-watching-can-be-proud-of-1.6510387

    Specifically:

    ” Asked why she thinks Trudeau tapped her to take on this job, Gould said it was a good question.

    “I was a little surprised to be chosen,””

    That is SO cute!

    https://338canada.com/35015e.htm

    • Martin,

      From where I sit, Karina Gould looks to be a wonderful choice. First decision this Prime Minister has made in eons that I can enthusiastically support. Congratulations to her.

      • Martin Dixon says:

        Ronald-broken clocks are wrong twice a day too. Even if she is up for the job, that is not why she was picked. Do you actually watch QP? I literally haven’t missed it in 8 years. Not once. Suggesting she is the one who should clean it up is actually quite funny.

        • Martin,

          Personally I can’t stand QP and it goes back all the way to the old man Trudeau. You must have a very strong stomach.

          As for Gould, I take her at her word. But admittedly, the proof will be in the pudding.

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