02.18.2025 03:36 PM

We have us a race, folks!

I like this. Why?

1. I like horse races – they’re more fun.

2. It forces Poilievre to be definitive on opposing Trump. He was slippery before. Not now.

37 Comments

  1. Sean says:

    LPC numbers under Carney have been much faster moving than any poll movement Poilievre enjoyed. Thus is serious momentum.

    The ballot box question is becoming crystallized and very simple.

    Carney = stop Trump

    Anyone else = Trump

    • Douglas+W says:

      How exactly will Carney stop Trump?
      Do explain.

      • Sean says:

        Presently, there is no reason to believe that he will stop Trump. However, I think Canadians are quickly coming to the reasonable conclusion that… of the options available… he is the most likely to succeed in that effort because:

        1. He is obviously the most qualified to create international headaches for Americans beyond Canada.

        2. He is obviously the most qualified in figuring out how to arrange alternative trade for Canada.

        3. He isn’t perceived as being part of the Trudeau mess. Sorry Conservatives … Try as you might… That will never happen. Stephen Harper appointed him to be Governor of the Bank of Canada and wanted him to be Finance Minister. There is almost no room at all to attack him from the right. He’s more established than almost anyone on Poilievre’s team as being acceptable to Conservatives…. Including Poilievre who treats the entire Conservative movement as if it were a carnival act..

        4. I loved his interview with Rosemary Barton. He seemed very calm, cool, serious, knowledgeable, deliberate and intentional with all of his statements. He reminded me of Michael Corleone in the scene when he proposes to wipe out all the family’s enemies. He just has that whiff of confidence about him. A war time consigliere. I believe the popular term these days is “adult in the room”. I’ve had old friends – hard NDPers tell me “I don’t agree with this guy, I don’t even like him, but I am voting for him because he obviously knows what he’s doing and what he’s talking about and Canada needs that now.”

      • Martin Dixon says:

        He can’t.

        • Sean says:

          Martin Dixon. Thanks for giving up on Canada so quickly. That is much preferable to those who can’t make up their mind and get too much attention.

          • Martin Dixon says:

            Huh?

          • Martin Dixon says:

            Sean, your boy has been whispering in Justin’s ear for years(not sure why he is now throwing him under the bus at this late date on of all his planks and agreeing with Pierre-the spending and the civil service was a beaut but I digress) and he sent him down to Mar a Largo with his matching orders(we would hope) and Justin said and I quote “If you impose these tariffs we are done as a country”. That is literally where the 51st state comment came from. So the tariffs seem to be a fait accompli and Justin’s brain said that the result wold be that we are done as a country. So, no he can’t deal with it and he admitted it. Pointing that fact out does not mean I have given up on my country. That is silly. But this coronation of Carney reminds me of 2013 and 2015. How did that work out? And, again, you didn’t do it but 10 minutes ago the Tru-anons were saying that Harper was a fascist(and worse) so you will forgive me if I am going to go along with their insanity of pulling him out as a talking point. Aren’t they the ones that constantly say to judge people by who they hang with?

    • Pedant says:

      You think this is a positive? As any stock trader will tell you, a slow steady increase in share price is far more sustainable than a sharp sudden rise on hopium.Parabolic moves are to be sold in anticipation of a drop. Poilievre stair-stepped higher over a 2.5 year period and is still hanging on to 40% even with the media at peak love affair with Mark Carney’s word salads. Most of the move to Carney comes at the expense of the NDP and BQ.

      Of course, the euphoric hopium attached to Carney, driven largely by elderly women, can be harnessed in the short-term. This is why the smart money is on Carney dropping the writ in March 10.

  2. Warren,

    The CPC has to do to Carney what they successfully did to Ignatieff in short order. If they fail to make it stick, the Liberals will form government once again.

    • Curious+V says:

      Ronald, I don’t think it’ll work on Carney – most of us remember him, side by side, with Harper and Flaherty during the great recession of 08 – I remember the world collapsing – I was a sales rep/territory manager working in a major city in Canada, selling to big projects like Hospitals, Infrastructure projects, Condo developments etc. The hospitals kept going, but so many projects were cancelled, or reduced in size – all i could count on were the infrastructure projects – government funded stuff. Harper, Flaherty – and yeah Mark Carney were there to steer Canada through that mess – I would go to big projects and the staff had all been told to stay home – empty sites – big holes in the ground. It turned around, and Mark Carney was central to that, he’s worked hard for Canada in trying times before, to great effect – even offered the finance portfolio from your buddy Harper – I don’t think they can smear him as an outsider – which is essentially what they did to Ignatieff – it’s a nativist instinct they tap into – the worst part of Canada that’s what the conservatives peddle to, our worst instincts

      • Pedant says:

        Have you ever had an original thought?

        What did Mark Carney have to do with infrastructure projects? What, specifically, did he do as BoC head to turn things around?

        He slashed interest rates along with every other central bank in the world. In retrospect it was a terrible decision as it concentrated more unearned wealth in the hands of the old and rich through asset inflation and the cantillon effect.

        • Pedant,

          Don’t be naive. They slashed interest rates precisely because they desired asset inflation, the cantillon effect, human inequality with increasing numbers of have-nots and so much more. They deliberately planned it that way and it was spectacularly successful for THEM, the elitists’ elite. The Carney crowd.

      • Martin Dixon says:

        The Tru-anons jumping on board for Carney because Harper and Carney were besties are so cute! Remember when you were basically calling Harper Hitler 10 minutes ago. That was awesome!

      • Curious,

        Try to keep up: Jamieson and I with plenty of company tried to give Harper the heave-ho in 2005. So much for “buddy.”

  3. Douglas+W says:

    Ronald,
    It’s looking like we’re headed for another strong Liberal minority government.
    As for the last nine years — already forgotten

  4. Derek Pearce says:

    Well, it looks like blue Liberals have come back home that’s for sure. Justin saved the party by resigning lol, oh how that must piss PP off.

  5. Pedant says:

    Hmm. That poll claims young men 18-34 are the second-biggest Carneymaniacs after women 55+. Call me skeptical of that one.

    If there’s one definitive conclusion we can take from all these polls it’s that the NDP is doomed. Non-party status in the House of Commons looms and Singh is very likely to lose his Burnaby seat. He will sneak past his pension deadline on February 25, as was undoubtedly his focus all along, and ride off into the sunset.

  6. Dink++++++Winkerson says:

    Anyone feel that Poilievre is like Emmanuel Goldstein describing the truth about Oceania during the 2 minutes of hate only to be drowned out before the the Liberals gently replace him with the comforting image of Carney followed with the rhythmic chant of MC MC MC MC.

  7. Curious+V says:

    So how is Poilievre gonna deal with Trumps exclusion of Ukraine, and then lashing out after being accused of spreading Russian Propaganda ?

    A big chunk of the conservative base is also tuned into the Russian propaganda machine – will PP support Ukraine? Or are they another tool for Putin, like their counterparts in the states?

  8. Martin Dixon says:

    Carney may very well win but I am literally laughing at his talking points this afternoon in Scarborough. He is going to reign in government spending because it has grown too much since 2015. Well, no shit. Is there anyone out there that is really stupid enough to fall for this nonsense? Sorry, dumb question. We have the receipts. They have stolen yet another idea from Pierre. So do you vote for the party that has been touting all these ideas for 10 years or the party that is just getting on board now.

  9. Martin Dixon says:

    And the CBC actually pointed that out after his nonsensical babbling. Good for them!

  10. Wink +=+++** Dinkerson. says:

    With Trump in office who would really want to be Prime Minister. It’s like fighting Smith to be Captain of the Titanic while it hurtles towards the giant orange iceberg.

  11. Martin Dixon says:

    This Liberal groupie just said on P and P that she hoped the Liberal party would find a reason to disqualify Ruby Dhalla before the debate.

    https://mcmillan.ca/people/stevie-obrien/

    Why don’t they just hand Carney the crown and get it over with. I mean WTAF. I actually hope they are stupid enough to do it. Terrible advice from a “lawyer”.

    • Martin Dixon says:

      She got her wish. A couple hundred thousand Tories need a plan B now(what was really going on).

      The 6 couples on the same 6 credit card was a silly reason. As someone who has raised a not immaterial amount of money over the last 20 years, that is SOP. And if you search Carney’s donation database, his supporters were doing the same thing.

      The fix is in. Old white guys rule!

      • Martin Dixon says:

        And I now see that the Liberal scumbags put out a presser before they told her. No one with an ounce of integrity should be voting for these folks.

        • Martin,

          Was she undermining someone else? Apparently not. I remember the last guy who found out he had been canned on Cross Country Checkup! That spoke volumes on how that guy was viewed with disdain for his previous conduct. I loved it, when it happened that way. It felt like poetic justice.

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