, 04.14.2019 07:08 AM

#LavScam by the numbers: Trudeau is losing – badly


The Toronto Star, of all media organizations, commissioned a poll after Justin Trudeau martyred Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott. And, according to the most Liberal-friendly paper of all, he’s in a free fall.

Story here, key facts below:

A new poll suggests Andrew Scheer’s Conservatives continue to have the most support among decided and leaning voters, while a majority of respondents to the survey said they disapprove of Justin Trudeau’s performance as prime minister. 

Forty-two per cent of decided and leaning voters said they support the Conservative Party. That compares with 29 per cent who intend to vote for the governing Liberals, and 12 per cent who support the New Democratic Party.

At the same time, 60 per cent of respondents to the latest poll said they disapprove of Trudeau’s job performance as prime minister, while more than half — 57 per cent — said Canada is either “much worse” or “a bit worse” than in 2015, when the Liberal government came to power.


  1. Hugh says:

    This is a definite parallel to President Johnson’s
    “―if I‘ve lost Cronkite, I‘ve lost middle America‖” (regarding Vietnam).

    If Trudeau loses The Star…
    well, you know the rest.

  2. Sean says:

    Much of the time folks pay very little attention to politics, unless something comes along to focus their attention. In a way the JWR situation has been a Hubble Telescope of sorts, providing a close look into the Trudeau cult. And they are appalled by what they see.

    It’s going to get worse. The Admiral Norman case will be viewed by every radio telescope on planet Earth, providing Canadians with more disturbing information.

  3. the real Sean says:

    The Liberal suicide cult refuses to solve the PM Zoolander mess, so the voters will do it for them.

  4. Joe says:

    The Liberal counter will be to paint all their opponents as racists, homophobes, and islamophobia.

    • Ronald O'Dowd says:


      They are idiotically already trying that now…all that does is increase the Conservative lead. By doing that, they simply add seats to the Conservative majority.

      But at least in defeat Justin will still be able to count on his friends who happen to be complete political incompetents.

      We all knew that post-India. Trudeau, not so much.

    • Montrealaise says:

      They’re already doing it – according to the national media, the Liberal strategy is to paint Sheer (and by extension, his supporters) as alt-right, white supremacists. That is going to feel like a slap across the face to every voter who has utterly lost confidence in Trudeau and has decided to give Sheer a chance.

  5. Mohamed says:

    Warren –nasty fake news rumor going around that you donated to Doug Ford!! Happy to help you debunk it — just post the rebuttal tweet and I will spread it around.

    (Us McGuinty fans have to stick together).

    • Warren says:

      I don’t have to debunk anything for a total stranger. I was going to their dinner and paid in advance. I missed it to report on Jody Wilson-Raybould’s testimony.

      I donate to every party. Now piss off.

    • Lance says:

      And if he did, so what? It isn’t wrong to donate to a recognized political party.

      You political partisans, married to your party ideology; you’re exactly what is wrong with the political health of our nation. We’re seeing just that in motion right now.

  6. Darren H says:

    I’m no political hack but I think the most difficult part of this affair is that it de-energizes the base and it would be very difficult to get them out to campaign and vote.
    If Scheer keeps it up by denouncing Bill 21 as he did, speak out against white supremacy and pull his party kicking and screaming toward the centre he could be PM for the next 10+ years like Harper.

    • Ronald O'Dowd says:


      IMHO, the 10 Year Harper Template might be enough to return the Liberals to power under a new leader. But that person must come from outside caucus (like someone much smarter than me commented here) otherwise it will likely be back-to-back Conservative governments.

    • Tee says:

      Pull them toward the centre? They are already there. Is the Liberals who went so far left that they’ve lost their ways. In Ontario in a desperate bid to keep power Wynne even tried to out left the NDP!

  7. Ted Cragg says:

    A lot of people, encouraged by the Liberal machine, want to vilify JWR and Jane Philpott, as if THEY were the ones responsible for the Liberal implosion. They just can’t come to terms with the fact that the PM, with collusion of his lieutenants, are the culprits.

    • Fred from BC says:

      Yeah, and they are rapidly running out of time to dump him and pick a new (interim) leader before the next election.

      • Adam says:

        They won’t, straight up. The bulk of anyone with any influence within the Liberal Party are still solidly convinced that Trudeau’s charisma will win over enough voters to carry them to another majority government in the end. The sad part is, they may be right.

    • Mark D says:

      Let me begin by stating that I have the outmost respect for JWR.

      In this context, it’s easy to vilify JWR to central Canada and the Maritimes. I may not agree with her vilification, but politics is not always fair.

      On the other hand, Dr Jane Philpott is much more difficult (I would say nearly impossible) to vilify in all this since. First, she is a medical doctor and the general population tends to trust medical doctors a lot more than it does lawyers, politicians, and drama teachers.

      Second, she was not under fire when everything was going down to discredit JWR. Rather she stood by JWR out of principle, resigning when there was no external pressure on her to do so. So it’s much harder to ascribe ulterior motives.

      • Fred from BC says:

        I know how you feel. JWR is my MP, and I just can’t forgive the bad decisions and poor judgement she showed as AG/Justice Minister (there is a time to just *keep your mouth shut*… “no comment” is sometimes your best option). Much of the legal community agrees: she was out of her depth. I was thinking that it was because she wasn’t very bright, frankly, but then I read that last interview she did and realized that she is actually pretty intelligent (if those were in fact her own words, and I have no reason to suppose otherwise)…which means that she is most likely either a) arrogant or b) immature (or possibly both) rather than unintelligent. Jane Philpott, though, I can’t think of a single bad thing to say about, and for the same reason you mentioned: she has no axe to grind here and no inherent conflict of interest to be influenced by. She’s got my support, for sure…

  8. Norbert Langelier says:

    A zinger from the British Bulldog himself
    ‘He occasionally stumbled over the truth, but hastily picked himself up and hurried on as if nothing had happened.’ —Former British Prime Minister Winston Churchill.
    He may have very well said the same about our PM JT if he were still with us.

  9. RKJ says:

    How about revising to “He regularly misrepresented the truth, and hastily….”

  10. margaret beresford says:

    Right, and our media had ‘no role’ in this fiasco of misinformation…Because there are never just one set of errors or side for same errors…In this case, we have CBC News to privatized and thus finally get rid of the board that now reeks of Conservatives….
    Oh, yeah had enough of only hearing a looped version of the same ‘ethical ‘ error blasted till my gut said –enough….Or, less than the same efforts in comparing what any honest woman, who dared arrest her own people, and hates activist court-judges—is all of a sudden given free ride over her illegal use of taped conversations….between uninformed governmental official on governmental business….
    So NO, I am so ashamed and am fighting till the last day for –what each and everyone of you should be—the right to allow the normal course of governmental business to NOT be interfered with or second guess when foreign officials are dripping to take advantage…..on especially corporate issues . Check the CEO of SNC —imagine he went down and told Trumpy off, thru other states that either they adhere or SNC is gone…Now what did Trudeau claim that same CEO say???
    Our media needs an entire overhaul as does our all our so-called systems….No justice, no democracy –no taxpayers….what?

    • Fred from BC says:

      I’m sorry…you lost me at “illegal use of taped conversations”…

      (debunked the very same day the taped conversation was released)

  11. eddie says:

    mark carney to the rescue

    • Ronald O'Dowd says:


      That balloon has already been floated before with shall we charitably say, mixed results.

    • margaret beresford says:

      Better re-check Carney’s so-called know-it-all qualifications…some were/are not that impressed….Funny not one comment on the ‘inverted curve’ re the bond market…Gone to sleep or is the advent of another but worse recession over and above –all print and air….?

    • Pedant says:

      A elite central banker who inflated the biggest housing bubble in the western world? Really? You think that’s an appropriate political leader for the times we live in? Have you not been paying attention to ANYTHING going on in global politics over the past few years?

      For Conservatives’ sake, I hope the Liberals are considering such a move. Mark Carney as leader would guarantee a decade of Conservative rule.

      They need someone like Warren’s MP, Nathaniel Erskine-Smith. I don’t agree with everything he says, but he’s at least genuine, humble, not smarmy (a rarity in Liberal circles), and has ideas that will resonate. Whether he’s a good campaigner though, I wouldn’t know.

  12. Grant says:

    Expect a new Nanos Poll this week:…… Liberals 50 and Cons 32.

  13. Jay S says:

    Forum …

  14. Gilbert says:

    I think there is another factor that we need to consider. A number of Liberals might become so disappointed in their leader and their party that they might not vote at all. Conservatives, on the other hand, will be highly motivated to vote.

  15. zing says:

    That 28 day period between the shuffle and JWR resignation sure must contain some damaging details for Trudeau, judging by how they are guarding against any disclosure of what happened between all the players in that period.

    Nixon had an 18 minute gap; Justin has a 28 day gap.

    • Warren says:


      • Joseph says:

        The subtext to that is the question that why would the PMO go balls to the wall for SNC risking the current liberal platform … aka the myth of Justin Trudeau.
        Stupid defies logic, no one can be that obtuse to not realize the obvious outcome of trying to get one company out of a criminal prosecution.
        There has to be something far more troubling to this than just not getting his way.

      • 416Firearmsowner says:

        Could it be related to Norman? Or something else?

        • Ronald O'Dowd says:


          People will likely be going to jail in Norman and not necessarily those you might think. It’s much, much, bigger than SNC-L.

          • 416Firearmsowners says:

            I admittedly do not have the same grasp on it like I do with SNC but my gut tells me those people you speak of are some of JT’s flunkies in the PMO

        • Norbert Langelier says:

          Or brown envelopes? Nah!

      • Joe says:

        28 day gap? Why is that relevant? It might offer a few interesting political tid bits, but I am wondering why so much Liberal interest in preventing an SNC trial.

        It’s not about jobs, for the reasons already discussed in the media, plus I believe the feds have regulatory ways of circumventing a ten year ban on SNC getting federal contracts.

        It’s not about SNC moving from Montreal for reasons already discussed.

        It seems like some one or some group, wants a trial, or its lead up investigatory work, to cease.

    • Ronald O'Dowd says:


      No offence, but I would have thought that was already self-evident to many, not just me.

      • Fred from BC says:

        Seriously. Letting her speak on some stuff but not all of it was actually worse than not letting her speak at all, don’t you think?

        If he had just hidden behind “cabinet privilege” right from the start, people would have been unhappy, yes…but many of them would have bought it anyway as being at least plausible; now, all anyone can focus on is “what is he *still* hiding?”.

  16. eddie says:

    Libs search for saviours, not run of the mill pols. That’s why they’ll reach for Carney or Kinsella…..

  17. eddie says:

    Other interesting thing, why are all the establishment heavyweights like Leblanc et al. not aggressively defending Turdeau and Buttshead in public….just sayin’

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