, 04.17.2020 09:53 AM

Trump’s coronavirus plan: “a total, complete, absolute clusterfuck”

When Trump lies, someone dies.

Rolling Stone’s shocking story, here.

If you were to write a playbook for how not to prevent a public-health crisis, you would study the work of the Trump administration in the first three months of 2020. The Trump White House, through some combination of ignorance, arrogance, and incompetence, failed to heed the warnings of its own experts. It failed to listen to the projections of one of its own economic advisers. It failed to take seriously what has become the worst pandemic since the 1918 flu and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. And when the White House finally awoke to the seriousness of COVID-19, the response it mustered managed to contain all the worst traits of this presidency. Trump and his closest aides have ignored scientists, enlisted family members and TV personalities and corporate profiteers for help, and disregarded every protocol for how to communicate during a pandemic while spewing misinformation and lies.


  1. jsa says:

    ok, we can all blame trump for the situation in the united states. that just leaves: italy, spain, france, uk, belgium, iran, germany, netherlands, brazil, turkey, sweden, switzerland, india, australia, canada…

    • jsa says:


      coronavirus outbreak in u.s. – a trump-made crisis

      five questions w.h.o. must answer – wuhan coronavirus

      • Walt says:

        Last time I checked, which was April 18, 1900 GMT, the Republican States have virtually the same death rate from COVID-19 as Canada (40.9 deaths per Million population vs. 39.0).
        For comparison, Democrat States are 4X worse (179/M). USA total is 116/M.

        Comparing Canada: Australia is 14X better (2.8/M), Europe (excluding Russia) is 4.0X worse (155/M) and Visgrad 4 countries (East-Central Europe) are 3.5X better (11.1/M).

    • Derek Pearce says:

      Apart from Brazil, those countries don’t have leaders who are actively still fighting against scientific advisors and spewing out lies and preventing the distribution of PPE across their nations. Mark my word, Trump and Kushner are privately profiteering money off this and I can’t wait to see them in jail for it.

      • lyn says:

        Derek Pearce: Mark my word Trudeau and Morneau are privately profiteering money off this and I can’t wait to see them in jail for it!! Think about it!! Lot of people have profiteered off it all the elites in Canada, USA and all the countries jsa mentions but I gather you didn’t cry me a river!!!

        • Derek Pearce says:

          You’re cute. Your rhetoric may comfort you but for real, Trump and Kushner are making money off of killing their fellow citizens and they will be jailed. Again, to repeat: all western countries did not have their eyes on the ball and have failed. But the US is uniquely failing in a per-capita extra special fail because of the utter incompetence of it’s thug prez.

          • The Doctor says:

            The numbers bear out out, Derek. The US looks like shit on this one, and I have never been reflexively anti-American. We have one-third their deaths per capita at this point, and yet they are wealthier than us.

      • jsa says:

        ok, apart from brazil, there must be some way we can put the blame on trump for italy, spain, france, germany, india, japan, canada, etc…

  2. Fred Pertanson says:

    No matter what Trump does, he is a bad man, according to the MSM.

    Our own noble leader pretty much did everything Trump did, only later, and he is getting praise in the MSM.

    Go figure.

    • Fred from BC says:

      “Did it later? On which planet do you reside? Apparently one where reading comprehension and memory is totally lacking. ”

      Oh, really?

      Here, read this:


      then this:


      …and then apologize to Fred P. for calling him “pompous and asinine”. Be a big enough man for that, Bill…

      • Peter says:

        Apologize during an argumentum ad Trumpum? C’mon, Fred, get real. Don’t you know about those take-no-prisoners orders.

      • Fred from BC says:

        …says the guy who links to The Guardian?


      • The Doctor says:

        Fred, if you’re equating the Gateway Pundit to the Guardian in terms of credibility and editorial ethics, you’re bonkers. Yes, the Guardian is left-wing in its slant. Duh. I find some of its editorial content to be irritatingly, head-smackingly woke and politically correct.

        But in its news coverage, the Guardian is still considered a reasonably credible organization that actually adheres to recognized journalistic ethics and standards, such as correcting stories, confirming sources etc. etc. Gateway Pundit is a propaganda platform that has spread utterly discredited conspiracy theories.

      • Fred from BC says:

        “But in its news coverage, the Guardian is still considered a reasonably credible organization that actually adheres to recognized journalistic ethics and standards, such as correcting stories, confirming sources etc. etc. ”

        Twenty years ago, maybe….but not now. The New York Times was once a respected publication as well, remember? And CNN too (remember when they were “the Most Trusted Name in News”? I do.)

        “Gateway Pundit is a propaganda platform that has spread utterly discredited conspiracy theories.”

        Yes. Good thing I’m not quoting any of their news or opinion pieces, then: I went there for A TIMELINE (you know, a record of actual events in sequence?) of the US Coronavirus response, to compare it with the Canadian one provided by the Edmonton Journal. I wanted one that matched in terms of formatting and conciseness, without editorializing or 1000 extra words (it wasn’t even *their* timeline, as it turns out ).

        I found what I wanted in the third link I tried. It happened to be a right-wing site…so what? Are you saying that timeline has been falsified, Doc? Please explain your concerns…

  3. And those who would be surprised to see the classic and typical Trump management style in action? That would be no one.

    Like I said before, Trump should declare a White House Brains requirement an essential service because quite obviously, to this point, they have not exactly been absolutely mandatory in The West Wing.

    • lyn says:

      R. O’D: And Hillary is innocent right!!

      • Ronald O'Dowd says:


        If you’re talking political crimes, your opinion is as good as mine but no better, as neither of us is God.

        Now, if you want to judge Hillary, Trump, or anyone else on alleged legal crimes, then you at least have to wait for a trial and possible conviction. A legal opinion on any of them is just that, and nothing more.

  4. joe says:

    There will be lots of blame to pass on to more people than Trump.

    How Delays and Unheeded Warnings Hindered New York’s Virus Fight

    The federal response was chaotic. Even so, the state’s and city’s own initial efforts failed to keep pace with the out break. The Times found.


  5. lyn says:

    joe: The NYT is fake news!!

  6. J.H. says:

    Jeez WK can we move on? We hear about Bad Trump everyday from the MSM in both countries. Our own vultures think it increases their audience by featuring Trumpisms and/or doomsday headlines all day every day. All it really does it cause one to skip over it and move on to something else.
    And before you tell me, I know it’s your site and you can do what you want, I just wish you’d offer your insights on other issues of the day, not just on Trump 24/7.
    thank you

  7. Our friends south of the border will have an opportunity to pass judgement on this administration in a few months. What they do will be a verdict on how well, or poorly, they feel the President has handled things. I will focus on what is going in Canada.

    • Fred from BC says:

      “I will focus on what is going in Canada.”

      Likewise. I’ll be waiting to see if Trudeau slips up and accidentally answers a direct question during his daily briefing.

      (hey…it could happen, right?…)

  8. Gilbert says:

    Has Justin Trudeau done a good job in the fight against the coronavirus? The government was slow to close the border. The chief public health officer advised against wearing masks and closing borders. We don’t dare criticize China or the WHO. We didn’t have screening at airports. Our response is far from perfecy. If we compare ourselves to Taiwan, we haven’t done so well.

    • Shawn says:

      We haven’t done so well in just about anything other than almost making Canada a Vassal state to China.

      • Peter says:

        That is simply not true. If you forget about all those tiresome and fruitless arguments about how we, like everybody else in the world, were slow to grasp the gravity and react and look at what is actually going on today, we have much to be grateful for. Our death rate, both per capita and as a percentage of confirmed cases, is very low and we are testing more than most countries. With the exception of Germany, those few countries being touted as success stories, like Taiwan and South Korea, are all unitary states with geographically tight populations and cultures with a strong bent for enforcing consensus with heavy social and political hands. Nobody ever claimed diverse federal states with individualist traditions were the most effective at responding to sudden existential threats. I get teary when I think about the dedication and sacrifices of our health care workers

        Politically, so far we have been able to avoid the dystopian partisanship that is plaguing our neighbour. For millions, perhaps most, Americans, nothing,–not policies, strategies, foreign relations, lives, livelihoods–absolutely nothing is as important as preventing or securing Trump’s reelection. Trump’s behaviour in the past week (converting his pressers into MAGA rallies and tweeting bile and division far and wide) has been appalling and there is no shortage of Dems and media critics reveling in that game. Up here, our leaders, especially the premiers, are enjoying very high support levels, in part because none of them are playing partisan games with our lives. So far, anyway.

        Now we (like everyone else) are about to tackle the question of how and when to ease the commercial lock down. That is going to be a very difficult task involving painful, even poignant, trade-offs, and it’s not one we can just defer to health or any other kind of experts. To be blunt, the issue will be how many lives to risk to save how many livelihoods. God be with us, may He give wisdom and courage to our politicians and may He spare us bitter social media rants by people who have convinced themselves the pandemic would be stopped in its tracks if only they were in charge.

  9. Warren says:

    Conservatives have always been better at dominating the Internet. If that bothers you, push back. Not with insults, but with smarts.

  10. Ronald O'Dowd says:


    Funny and ironic that you happen to be the only Liberal democrat trying to gode Warren into becoming anti-free speech. You’ve really surprised me. The PM would never make that kind of a suggestion. He’s a Charter guy.

    • Fred from BC says:

      “You’ve really surprised me.”

      Doesn’t surprise me at all,since every one of his posts seems to be an attempt to bully people into shutting up…and when that fails, he runs to Dad (twice now, by my count).

    • Ronald O'Dowd says:


      Your point is well taken but that was a one-on-one disagreement but you’re correct, all of us should try to refrain from that type of conduct as it’s not right.

      But Mike, your recent comment is collective in nature. It’s of the order of a higher magnitude. That’s my point.

      We’ve all said in comments things we’ve regretted later. That includes me. None of us write here as if we were saints. It’s politics after all. But all of us would do well to remain respectful.

  11. Shawn says:

    In Michigan the governor allows the sheep to buy state run lottery tickets or even allowed to run off to the liquor store and get your johny six pack of Coors light, sit in front of the shit box and wait for the lotto to come on tv just to see if your numbers come up. But you cant buy seeds to start planting early in your house to get a head start on your gardening, cant acquire home improvement items hell you cant do anything constructive in this boring of times without her approval. But its okay to take the risk to get your lottery ticket or buy as much booze as you like with all the sin tax applied. Yea its okay as risk your health to fund the state. I smell bull shit in this whole thing.

  12. Ronald O'Dowd says:

    Be careful, IN COMMENTS. You don’t want to end up like the two vlog dudes: one sued by Robinhood and the other, Tesla…

  13. jsa says:

    *clusterfucks: canada post now has a backlog of about 3 wks


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