KCCCC Day 54: I’m in Whitehorse and couldn’t see the damn debate

 

  • Okay, so here we are in Whitehorse.  It’s snowing.  Spent a good part of yesterday visiting former Liberal MP Larry Bagnell and current Conservative MP Ryan Leef.  Nice guys, both.  Story to come in next week’s Hill Times.
  • Because we couldn’t see the French language debate – and because no one else in Yukon was watching it, seemingly – I opened up comments for y’all to comment.  Below, a summary of your takes on what you saw heard.  Bottom line: appears I didn’t miss much. Here goes.
  • Jam: From an entertainment perspective it was nice having Duceppe back at the podium. He’s got such a razer sharp wit… pity he’s a seperatist.
  • Michael Bluth:  I think overall it was a good night for everyone but Mulcair.  Harper did pick up a little ground.  Trudeau performed passable. Much less arm waving.  May tried.  Mulcair seemed to be actively working on keeping the anger down and was at times frustrated in that.
  • Christian:  Didn’t watch the debate – don’t much care anymore as I think these events are now just for partisans. I’ve sadly resigned myself that we’re going to be stuck with Harper after this is all done. What we have here is almost the exact same situation as the UK election. Parties deadlocked but then the machinery of the FPTP system kicked in and rewarded splits to Cameron’s Conservatives (its also interesting that Harper now has the guy who helped Cameron win now advising him). This will I’m afraid happen again unless something big occurs allowing one of the opposition parties to surge ahead. So far that isn’t happening.
  • Matt:  Duceppe won the debate…………….. for Stephen Harper.
  • Canadian Kate:  Was struck by how close Duceppe was to Harper on many issues. Which could make the Bloq a ‘kingmaker’ if the Cons end up with a narrow minority and Duceppe actually wins some seats (not sure what the seat projections show for him.)
  • Sean Cummings:  I rather liked Chantal Hebert’s smackdown on Andrew Coyne during At Issue last night as opposed to the debate itself. (And local CBC radio was playing it here in Saskatoon during the morning show)
  • Maps Onburt:  It cracked me up that the English translator for Trudeau had the same high, squeaky voice as Trudeau – although he didn’t get the breathless part quite right.
  • Bill G.:  Didn’t see it, was doing life stuff. On the radio this morning thru a CTV feed, old Bobby Fife said that Mulcair and Harper pretty much sawed each other off, and, Duceppe and Trudeau were the ones who looked out of place, then, said, Trudeau looked to be the loser of this debate.  Then read a few columnists who thought Trudeau and Harper did ok and Mulcair struggled.  I think the only people who watch these things now are the people who already know who they are voting for.
  • Bobbie:  1) we turned it off at the 48 minute mark.  2) turned it back on for the last 20 minutes.  Did we miss anything? No. Not one thing.  A race for second place between Mulcair and Trudeau – Trudeau doing better than Mulcair and Harper benefits from Duceppe.  Election results on Oct. 19? – Trudeau becomes the official opposition, NDP third party. Harper majority.
  • Matt: Let me just say I only watch it in short bursts because the translator voices were annoying.  From what I did see, it seemed to me there was an internal struggle going on within Muclair to prevent Angry Tom from bursting forth.  I LOL’d at Harper’s response to a question, or maybe it was a comment from May – The camera focused in on him and he simply rolled his eyes and shook his head.
  • Roger X:  I saw it and heard the translations, but early in the ‘debate’ Mulcair and Harper got into a finger pointing tiff standing next to each other, and it appeared that Harper got the better of Mulcair, in French too!!!
  • Al in Cranbrook:  PM Harper gained ground tonight in Quebec…even Hebert suggested as much. His heated exchange with Mulcair will be the topic du jour tomorrow around office coffee pots.
  • Andre Goulet:  What? None of you nerds watched the Grand Débat?  What a huge improvement on last week’s Globe fiasco, particularly in the dignity that Patrice Roy and Yves Boisvert brought to their profession. Stark contrast to the G&M editor-in-chief’s very public act of seppuku last week.  Short version:  Harper: B- for keeping to his talking points and keeping his cool, Trudeau: B for appearing competent and avoiding the shrill notes he hit at the G&M debate, Mulcair B+, but just barely, for telling Quebeckers what they wanna hear and appearing prime ministerial, May: C+ for managing to hold up okay in french and getting some valid points across, Duceppe: B for being a weirdo and an authentic politician.  Radio-canada: A+ for being smart and putting together a really great debate.  The one-two of last week and this week’s televised debates are a great argument for a future pointing to a Consortium supremacy.
  • Todd Robdon:  Lamest kung fu movie ever.

And Todd wins the comment of the night! Have a good one, all.  Me, I’m getting a jacket for the drive out to Carcross!


French debate open thread

I’m in the Yukon and completely unable to see the debate. So, add your trenchant commentary below. I’ll post the best ones as KCCCC tomorrow, bien sur!


KCCCC Day 53: polls, schmolls

  

  • Look, I’m in the backseat of a crowded Beck taxi, heading to Pearson  and Whitehorse. I don’t have time to do a great big KCCCC thing. Sorry. 
  • So, instead, I give you this snapshot of National Newswatch this morning. It has to be seen to be believed. If any of you can discern a pattern in these entrails, speak your mind. But God knows if I can figure it out. Comment away!

  


KCCCC Day 52: the Yogi Berra edition 

  

  • Yogi Berra has died. The beloved All Star and World Series champion catcher was 90. The reason why the Jays lost in an extra inning, last night, was because God is a Yankee fan. Obviously. 
  • Yogi, along with being arguably the most famous baseball player ever, was also the source of many famous aphorisms. As such, to honour him, we of course intend to apply his wisdom to the Canadian election campaign. Of course. Here goes. 
  • “It ain’t over until it’s over.” What does this mean in the context of a Canadian election? Well, plenty. This has been the election without end – and, even when it ends, it will not have ended. That’s because we are almost certainly going to be looking at a minority Government, and another bloody election will take place not so long afterwards. So it truly is not over. And won’t be anytime soon. 
  • “I always thought that record would stand until it was broken.” What did our gentle muse mean by this? Well, hard to say. There’s one thing is for sure: all of the previous records in Canadian politics – that the NDP would never form government in Alberta, that Liberals could not win a fourth consecutive terms in Ontario, that Stephen Harper cannot possibly win a majority after three unsuccessful tries – well, all of those records were broken, weren’t they? We are in a time of undeniable change. None of the old rules or conventions seem to apply.
  • “In baseball, you don’t know nothing.” This gem applies to baseball, but it obviously applies to the Canadian polling industry, as well. They seem to get things wrong more often than they get things right, these days. The examples are legion. So, to those of you poking through the entrails of Nanos’ “power index” (whatever that is), or Whomever’s “likely voters” (ditto) – good luck to you. Nobody really knows how things are going to turn out, anymore, which makes it a lot more fun again.
  • “I never said most of the things I said.” This witticism can clearly apply to all three major party leaders. After all, all of them have seemingly adopted positions that are decidedly at odds with the positions they held in the past. Mulcair is against deficits and for fighter jets. Trudeau is for anti-terror legislation but against actually fighting terrorists. Harper was against letting in more refugees, until he was. And so on. It’s hard to keep track without a program, folks.
  • “When you come to a fork in the road, take it.” In other words, a big choice is coming your way in less than four weeks, and none of us knows which choice to make. None of the leaders are popular enough to clearly win. None of the political parties are popular enough, either. In baseball, as in life, three-way ties are not permitted. Therefore, get ready for extra innings, folks! 

KCCCC Day 51: is Justin Trudeau turning the Liberal Party into the NDP?

 

  • Based on the evidence, the answer just might be yes.  And it’s been going on for a while, too.
  • Go back almost a year ago, when the Liberal leader angered many (me included) with his adamant refusal to combat ISIS.  It was opposed by the likes of Lloyd Axworthy, Bob Rae and Gen. Romeo Dallaire – and, in the view of lesser Grit mortals like me, it was reckless.  ISIS was the most significant genocidal threat the planet had seen in a long time – and, per the axiom, silence/indifference was complicity.  But Trudeau had staked out a position that was clearly designed to attract New Democrat wafflers. Even when he started to fall from his first-place perch in the polls, Trudeau stuck to his (non-lethal) guns on ISIS.
  • It might have worked, too, but for C-51.  Anything that Trudeau achieved with his ISIS stance was lost with his approve-of-C51-before-even-reading-it position.  Many in the Liberal Party (but not me) were angry that he had decided to criminalize the promotion of terror, just as his father had rightly criminalized the promotion of hatred and genocide. As the year began, Liberals felt dizzy: Trudeau had jerked them to the Left (with his ISIS position) and then to the Right (with his C-51 position). It was policy whiplash.
  • Since then, since C-51, Trudeau hasn’t changed course. He’s gripped the steering wheel, and aimed the Liberal ship to the Left – and he hasn’t wavered.  He sought to place himself to the Left of Thomas Mulcair – and, as of this week, I think he’s done it.
  • Take a look at the evidence.  He’s the guy who favours big deficits, not Mulcair.  He’s the guy who wants to balloon infrastructure spending. He’s the guy who wants to accept a historic number of Syrian refugees.  He’s the guy who daily rails against millionaires, not Mulcair.  He’s the guy who actually says that the democratic socialists favour “austerity,” and he doesn’t.  He’s the guy who, this week, announced that he would scrap the purchase of F-35 fighter jets, not Mulcair.  And on and on.
  • There can’t be any debate that Trudeau now leads the New New Democrats.  What’s unclear is his motive. One, it could be that he has calculated that there are more gettable New Democrat voters than so-called Blue Grits, and he’s sacrificed the support of the latter for the former.  Two, it could be that he’s positioning himself for a Peterson-style minority government, with NDP support (and maybe even participation) assured.  Three, it could be that he really and truly believes it is the right thing to do, his upbringing notwithstanding.
  • Can it work? Well, look what I found doing a Google search for you this morning.  It worked before for another Trudeau.  Maybe it will again for this one.  From the Lewiston Daily Sun, February 19, 1980:

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KCCCC Day 50: four weeks to get engaged! Or, not.

 

  • It’s Day 50 – and there’s only four weeks to go!  Listening to CBC Radio this morning on the way to work, a few of the hosts were saying that people are “engaged” in this election campaign.  They didn’t seem to have any data to back up that contention – just, anecdotally, people are “engaged.”
  • Are they really? I’m not saying they’re not, and nor am I saying that they are.  I honestly don’t know – and neither, it seems, does anyone else.
  • The most-recent debate suggests to me that few folks are tuned in to this thing.  The commentariat were highly excitable about it all – Old Stock Canadians! Trudeau’s yelling! Mulcair made a reefer joke! – but was anyone else? Well, at least one poll suggests that the debate didn’t move the needle at all, as seen here.  Which may mean that no leader won or lost.  Or, it may mean that just 300,000 people were watching it onlinea figure that is regularly exceeded by the Smosh YouTube kids. (And the debate before that? No better.)  Carville likes to say if it didn’t happen on TV, it didn’t happen.  But what if it happened on TV, and no one watched? Then it still didn’t happen.
  • The pollsters are as confused about “engagement” as anyone else.  They are currently washing their dirty laundry in public, but when they’re not doing that, they are saying little that is definitive about engagement – perhaps because, logically, it’s impossible to ask folks who aren’t engaged why they aren’t engaged.  Because they’re not, um, engaged enough to talk to a pollster about engagement.  But the overall trends aren’t good.
  • The punditocracy, me included, all thought everyone’s attention would be riveted after Labour Day.  We didn’t know that, we just thought that.  To this point, I’ve seen little empirical evidence that we were right – that first post-Labour Day debate should have had some kind of an effect (in my view, hurting Trudeau and helping Mulcair).  But it didn’t. Nada.
  • Bottom line? The bottom line is that there isn’t one.  This continues to be the Seinfeld-ian Election About Nothing™.  There’s been no shocking development, there’s been no excitement, there’s been no big shift, there’s been no change at all, in fact.  It’s just been…nothing.  And that suggests, to me, that folks still aren’t engaged.  And that – just maybe – they will continue to stay that way for the next four weeks.
  • Here’s a photo that neatly summarizes what I think is going on.  It’s all-Canadian, eh?

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KCCCC Day 49: can you spot the theme?

  

  • Look, I couldn’t tell you how the election is going turn out. I’ve long suspected the CPC would pull it off, as seen here, but only a crazy person would say they know. 
  • But there’s a trend, a feeling, out there. That the Liberals are doing well, but not well enough to win government. That the NDP have stalled and, in some places, are slipping. And that Harper has a rock-solid base who vote for him no matter what, and that there are more Harper supporters out there than the (obviously flawed) polls are reporting. 
  • Others feel likewise, apparently. As you can see here and here and here from today, and here and even here from previous days. 
  • In a race this tight, some things matter and some things don’t. What doesn’t matter are national horserace polls and punditry about same. What matters is GOTV, organization and E-day. 
  • The Cons have been stronger with those sorts of things for a decade. They still are. And that’s why, after a decade in power – with scandals and recessions and controversies on his watch – it is simply amazing that Stepehen Harper is still in the race, let alone tied with the other two guys. 
  • The reason for that is the core vote. Harper has always had a core vote that is big enough to win at least a minority – and the other two haven’t. Their voters, as we have seen, are highly promiscuous. They flit back-and-forth. And that suits Stephen Harper just fine. His vote is bigger than they say. And it isn’t going anywhere between now and E-day.