04.13.2012 08:32 PM

A: A joke.

Q: What is Ontario NDP leader Andrea Horwath’s leadership?

32 Comments

  1. Dan says:

    I think that shows there are a lot of voters angry enough with Dalton to oust him from government. Between the Conservatives and the NDP, that’s a majority.

    He’d be wise to negotiate with Horwath. The NDP voters won’t punish Horwath any more than the Conservative voters will punish Hudak. If he wants to run on pure austerity without tax increases on the wealthy, there’s a Conservative party that will do that with far more conviction.

    • Michael says:

      You are assuming that Ontarians want austerity and that they want a government to ruthlessly make deep cuts.

      • Bill says:

        They don’t want austerity, they need austerity. The majority of Ontario understands this. I wish the conservatives had someone different then Hudak, then we could finally get rid of this bum Dalton. He has made Ontario’s situation much worse than it should be.

        • Just Call Me Rick says:

          Bill said: “They don’t want austerity, they need austerity.” I assume your not in the “they” category. Take your Conservative bullshit elsewhere. Many respected economists, including the IMF, have admitted that heavy-handed austerity has caused more problems than it solved. You can’t cut your way to prosperity. Greece is an archetypal case in point.

          • Bill says:

            Rick, I am part of the “they”. Put the crack pipe away and think about what you are saying. Greece is a completely different beast, I’m certainly not advocating austerity to that degree. How does Ontario get out of this mess……and raising taxes is not an option. Time to cut services and reset the public sector entitlements. No more pension IOU’s. Dalton doesn’t understand how not to spend and this will be his legacy.

          • Just Call Me Rick says:

            Bill,

            Sure you are. Put the National Post down, and stop channeling Ayn Rand. Austerity shouldn’t just be for the little people. Its time the 1%er’s (and 0.1%, 0.01%) chipped in as well , and raise taxes on them, don’t you think? Then we’ll talk austerity.

          • Bill says:

            Wish I was a 1%er. Sure lets see them contribute more, but that will not be nearly enough. The root cause of the problem is not revenue, it is spending.

            Why do people on the LEFT always blame the rich people? The middle class (which is me) needs to demand more from who we elected. In more, I don’t mean more socialism (welfare checks and free day care). I mean better managed, more efficient and smaller (less expensive) government. I don’t get to give myself a raise every time I want to spend more and that is what the red, blue and orange machines have been doing for a very long time. In Ontario, its time to pay the piper. Mild austerity is required.

        • I think Ontario voters are weary from the lack of cooperation among parties and they’re wary from Robocon and the fall out from the AG’s report on the F35 debacle. They will look rather harshly on any party be it federal or provincial, that can’t compromise and act more transparently.

          We’ve seen the dismal, downward spiral of the Tea Party & Republicans after they adopted untenable and inflexible deficit reduction positions to pander to their base and cut their way to prosperity.

          Ontario voters are expecting all political parties to figure this thing out together but the far ends of the political spectrum still think it’s a zero-sum game.

          • Cam Prymak says:

            Gord,

            Yes, it is precisely the fact that the Tea Party Republicans mis-managed their 2010 victory and have arrived at this dismal level that bewilders many.

            Four days ago the Washington Post said this,

            ‘Obama has double-digit leads over the likely Republican presidential nominee on who would do a better job of protecting the middle class, addressing women’s issues, handling international affairs and dealing with health care.’

            It’s all a little reminiscent of your ‘mis-interpretation post’.

          • You’d think that a president with 8% unemployment is unelectable.

            After all of the sideshows and vitriole they now begrudgingly point to a flip-flopping, moderate Massachusetts governor as the potential nominee. What a contrast.

            I am sure they’ll eventually rally, bolstered by hundreds of millions of dollars of negative ads but will that get the vote out?

            They need to make sure they do because the last 18 months has given independents and women voters every reason to leave the Republican party in droves. And that’s reflected in the polls.

      • Dan says:

        Dalton McGuinty is making that assumption just fine. He’s just unwilling to carry it out to its logical conclusion. There’s a constituency for austerity, and there’s a constituency against it. There’s nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead squirrels.

        • Michael says:

          The middle of the road is where most Ontarians and most Canadians are located. 😉

          Why do you think Harper and Mulcair are both moving there parties to the middle?

          • Dan says:

            The *principled* middle position on austerity — between “cut everything” and “go into debt” — is a modest tax increase on the wealthy.

            That’s where “most Ontarians and most Canadians are located”.

            The Liberal party is following their path to the *unprincipled* middle. Which is to look at what the NDP is offering, look at what the Conservatives are offering, stick their finger in the wind, and then follow the Federal Liberal party into complete self-destruction.

  2. Tim Sullivan says:

    A: So big and strong, it needs a campaign mini-van.

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