01.09.2012 07:57 AM

Hill Times story on Libs

“Crawley is the unilingual Turner-Martin guy, and Copps is the multilingual Trudeau-Chrétien person. That’s why it’s attracting a lot of attention, at least among Liberals,” said Mr. Kinsella, a former adviser to Mr. Chrétien and a former Cabinet ministerial staffer. “If Crawley wins, it’ll signal a return of many of the folks who consigned us to opposition status in the first place. But don’t take that to mean I support Copps holus-bolus: her statements about Rae and the leadership have done her a lot of damage, and she was wrong to say what she said. If she loses, it’ll be because of that.”

17 Comments


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    Marc L says:

    For the sake of the Liberal party, I hope Sheila Copps loses. “Storm Trooper”? More like hysterical left-wing protectionist. Certainly not the way to modernize the Liberal Party.


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    William says:

    Harper already in attack mode over this.

    quel surprise

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/liberal-lemmings-headed-off-cliff-with-rae-tories-charge/article2295840/comments/


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    Matt says:

    Sigh. Too bad we couldn’t get rid of all Turner-Martin and all Trudeau-Chretien liberals. Then we’d be on to something.


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      Warren says:

      Agreed!


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        Pat says:

        It was nice of you to publicly remove yourself from this thing, Warren. People know which side of the Chretien-Martin divide you are on… but I’m ignorant as to why Crawley is considered a Turner-Martin guy – could you enlighten me?

        Thanks.


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          Warren says:

          Google him. I did.


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            NGPOC says:

            Google? Did I read correctly. “The” WK acquires information that requires political synthesizing from Google of all places. That changes everything!


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      Jane says:

      Here here.


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    james Smith says:

    So was groundhog day


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      Pat says:

      Oh… oh… can I be the one to say that Star Wars was a movie??? Can I??


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    Kre8tv says:

    Ongoing tribalism within the Liberals is what is killing this party.


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      Mulletaur says:

      That’s why it is so very important for the Liberal Party of Canada to get leadership right. Only those who can unite the various factions need apply.


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    Pat says:

    Whatever happens at the convention, the whole Party needs to get behind the victor. The Party will have decided, and no matter whether you are a Martin or Chretien person, you need to say you are ready to do what it takes to help. Otherwise the LPC is screwed – it has already dealt with internal divisions for a decade, if they continue I might as well just quit voting…


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    Philippe says:

    Isn’t the Martin-Chrétien nightmare a thing of the past?


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    Sean says:

    Not long ago, a lot of Liberals (myself included) thought the infighting was actually kind of fun. We thought the Turner / Martin wing VS the Chretien Trudeau wing was a major component of what kept us in power. It looked like we had some debate within the party. After all, unresolved conclusions is one of the most endearing attributes of modern Canadian Liberalism. One of my favourite backroom guys who liked to “hold court” in the hallways of conventions used to say that the Martin / Chretien fights were “the best movie ever written”.

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