12.02.2015 03:15 PM

Dear America

As long as you make it easy for crazy people to get guns, you will have crazy people using them on others.

You know how to stop this. But you won’t.




  1. cs says:

    america needs better healthcare coverage, so that the mentally ill can get the help they need. Restricting guns, and creating mental health facilities to help those that need it.

  2. Jack D says:

    Let’s face it, America isn’t going gun-free anytime soon.

    I was aghast at the adamant denial and delusion in the resistance of the gun-nuts of America following the murder of those elementary school children, when gun-control was against railed against. If innocent little children losing their lives senselessly isn’t enough to convince these maniacs that gun-control is absolutely necessary in the US, then nothing will ever convince them.

    Following events like these, I can’t say I’d be so opposed to the idea of building a wall on the Canada-US border.

  3. Ronald O'Dowd says:


    Granted many are psychiatric cases but what percentage clearly are not?

  4. Kenz0s says:

    I feel like I’m watching a close friend, otherwise vibrant and full of possibility, destroy themselves bit by bit. Shot by shot.

    Sounds terribly condescending, I know. But it’s hard to think of it any other way.

  5. nobonus4nonis says:

    riddle me this. swiss males serve two years in the military. they keep their weapons. mass shootings? nope. you’d have to be crazy but switzerland is a rich country… and there you have it. it’s always about the money, or lack of it.

    • DougM says:

      I agree it has more to do with social issues than just access to guns. While we have a fairly rigorous licensing system and other controls, firearms are still relatively easily accessible in Canada. 8 million were registered at the time the Long Gun Registry ended and compliance with said registry was estimated (through importation records) at 50%. Yet the bulk of murders in this country where firearms are used are by criminals already involved in criminal activity. We do have nut jobs who kill, and often with knives. But the frequency is low. I think this is due to our overall standard of living and social programs. In fact I believe that so strongly that I would argue where violence exists is where we are failing with a lack of social programs (or not enough or the right kind).

  6. Pipes says:

    I don’t think it’s as much as crazy people getting guns, as much as it may be guns are for crazy people.

  7. Al in Cranbrook says:

    Looking increasingly now like a planned terrorist attack.

  8. Greg from Calgary says:

    America will put you on a do not fly list. But the same people they deem too dangerous to fly can buy assault weapons with no waiting period or restrictions. Brilliant.

    • DougM says:

      Actually, despite popular belief in Canada, the US has multiple layers of national, state and municipal gun control laws. All gun purchases through a dealer (online too) or over state lines require a background check done through what they call an FFL (someone licensed by the BATF). While “assault weapon” is a made up political term, California has gun control laws which prohibit said “assault weapons”. But before we all jump to conclusions on not just motive but “access to firearms”, perhaps we should wait to find out more as the police investigate and release information.

      • Greg from Calgary says:

        I was in the military, we called them assault rifles. I did swap out the rifle for weapon my bad but, I don’t remember the MCpl belonging to a political party and using a political term. Just like the C6 was GPMG and the C9 a LMG

  9. Mezba says:

    In the past decade, 29 Americans have been killed in violent jihadist attacks on American soil, according to data from the New America Foundation, while 132,349 have been killed in gun violence homicides.

    • mapsonburt says:

      10M have been killed by abortions, 3M killed by tobacco, 300K by drunk drivers… your point is? The fact that the US hasn’t been hit by another 9/11 in the past decade is good luck and probably good police work. Look at Paris… you can’t say it isn’t a threat.

  10. Derek Pearce says:

    An entire political class with Stockholm syndrome, held hostage by gun-nuts. The whole United States held at gun point by the NRA.

  11. mapsonburt says:

    Why are you saying these are crazy people? It’s pretty damn clear they had a terrorist agenda. I’m tired of prog’s making apologies and excuses for these Islamic whack jobs.

  12. Joe says:

    I do make the subtle distinction between crazy people and jihadi killers. The killing in San Bernadino were jihadi inspired. Complete with tavel to the Middle East amd cameras. Yes these jihadis used guns. Some of the previous ones used pressure cookers. Some used airplanes. We really don’t need more controls over the materials used to kill we need more control over the jihadis.

  13. Al in Cranbrook says:

    In this instance, talk about gun control is somewhat about deflecting from the obvious. Clearly, this was a jihadi inspired attack.

    That said, there is this impression being perpetrated that Americans are cruising their streets with a concealed Glock under their vest, or an AR-15 in the trunk. Question: When’s the last time anyone here heard of someone pulling his concealed weapon and shooting back at a would-be mass murderer? Right, me neither. Reality isn’t living up to that hype…or in the rare instance it happens perhaps it’s not being reported? Nevertheless, the following interview is compelling… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9NDnqS5h9k

    Here’s an interesting stat I recently came across: During the Bush presidency, firearms sales rose something in the order of 38%. Since Obama became president, sales have risen over 140%. For a long time now, even years, it’s been just about impossible to find a box of 50 rounds of .22LR sitting on a store shelf in the US. Production of .22LR ammo is something in the order of 5,000,000,000 rounds per year. The prevailing thinking in the US is that Obama has been pretty much the best thing that ever happened for the firearms industry. Make of all this what you will.

    There is something to the argument that, if one wants his/her 15 minutes worth of fame and glory, the MSM, if not social media, pretty much will guarantee as much following a mass shooting. Sign of the times in which we live?

    History: Prior to WW1, lever action rifles (think John Wayne westerns) were the standard for hunting. Post war, the soldiers came home with a new found faith (one tends to acquire when one’s life is on the line) in bolt action rifles. Military rifles, primarily Model 1903 Springfields, 1917 Enfields, Lee Enfields, and Mausers, were quickly adapted to the sport of hunting in N. America. Much more powerful, long range capable, and abundantly available. A similar phenomena followed the Viet Nam war and later conflicts with the M16 battle rifle…albeit it’s early years were very checkered regarding reliability. Hence the popularity of the AR-15, a civilian adaptation of the design.

    The 5.56 NATO, or it’s civilian version, the .223 Remington, for which probably 95% of AR-15s are made, is so relatively anemic that in some jurisdictions it is illegal to use for hunting deer, and is considered only appropriately effective for small game such as coyotes and wild boar. It was developed military use for two essential reasons: a) recoil generated by it’s predecessor, the 7.62×51, or .308 Winchester, made it impossible to control any rifle in full automatic mode, and b) within the constrictions of weight, a soldier could pack a lot more ammo into the field. Indeed, many soldiers will confess that this caliber is a chronic underperformer in combat, too often leading to casualties amongst their own ranks. Fact is, 95% of rifles designed for hunting big game are far, far more powerful and capable than your average AR-15. I point this out because I’ve heard and read so much ignorance in the MSM regarding the almost mystical capabilities of the AR-15 due to its overwhelming power, presumably because it fires military ammo, and looks like a really scary military weapon.

    FWIW, a little knowledge for the purpose of enlightenment, from which rational debate can stem.

  14. JamesHalifax says:

    it wasn’t just the guns responsible for this mass shooting. Apparently, there was some “islam” involved.

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