02.07.2016 09:55 AM

Sometimes debates still matter

This is one such time. The emasculation of a puffed-up little prat, from an unlikely source.


  1. Al in Cranbrook says:

    With all due respect, that’s a tad rich given who just got elected PM of Canada.

    Yes, he got off to a bad start, he was not prepared for Christie. His handlers…and every politician running for leadership has handlers…clearly convinced him to ignore the personal attacks and stay on message. They should have known better, and they blew it for Rubio.

    That said, he finished strong, and held his own from there on.

    Will it hurt him in this primary? Probably. But I don’t think it was fatal. And I don’t think he’ll make this mistake again. He’s very intelligent, articulate, and capable.

    Trump came away no better or worse off. Cruz drew a blank. Kasich and Bush bought themselves some time. And both Christie and Carson’s days in this race are numbered, likely down to two or three of ’em before they pack it in.

    • nobonus4nonis says:

      do me a favour cranbrook. look out your left eye and close the other. go ahead we’ll wait. tap tap tap tap. now look out your right eye and close the other. not the same is it. it’s only when we look through both eyes that we see reality. you however, are incapable of seeing beyond your right eye view of the world. you are so blinded by bias that you insist on dumping every link you can find that supports that bias and dumping your little turds here there and everythere. I for one don’t give a rat’s ass what the national post, globe or ctv or any other con proxy you dredge up says about our commons. give it up already. you’re boring.
      new word for cranbrook. he’s a wudz. seriously. that was my captcha 🙂

    • Mike says:

      Shorter Al…..everyone won

    • smelter rat says:


    • Ronald O'Dowd says:


      We’re talking the United States of America seen through the Republican looking glass. They are far too narrow minded to take a chance on this presidential wanna be. Christie knows how to read a room — not to mention his own political party.

      • Al in Cranbrook says:


        Christie got trashed in Iowa, and is running at about 4% in NH polling. He’s fighting for his political life, albeit he still has a job to go back to in New Jersey. His pitbull imitation won’t save his bacon on Tuesday.

        If anyone is interested (rhetorically speaking), watch and listen to Rubio here…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abe387gWNHc Agree with him or not, he definitely has the gift.

  2. SG says:

    I don’t get it. This is showing us that Rubio, like every other politician on the planet, is repetitive and says the same talking points over and over again?

    What is the great revelation or “gotcha” in that video?

    • Al in Cranbrook says:

      Christie was downright vicious, maybe the worst I’ve ever seen on a political stage…so much so he may well have cost himself votes. Rubio was completely caught off guard…and he shouldn’t have been, because over the previous couple days Christie gave his team all they needed to know about what he was going to throw at him.

  3. Maps Onburt says:

    I agree with both you guys. There is nothing at all fatal here for Marco and it’s only one of about 39 debates that have happened. So Christie got in a good punch. So what. Christie killed himself when he hugged Obozo during the last election. Most republican voters will never forgive him putting the torpedo into Romney at that late stage when Obama wasn’t doing well so that this round would be open for Christie. I think Rubio is going all the way. Compared to Hilary or Sanders he’s a white knight (and there is no way the Republican Party is going to pick Trump or Cruz at the end of the day).

    • monkey says:

      The biggest thing against Christie is he once boasted that New Jersey has the second toughest gun laws in the US. This is political suicide for the GOP as unlike 20 years ago where you could be pro gun control and still be in the GOP, today the party members expect every leader to have an A from the NRA and if you don’t you cannot win. It didn’t hurt him for governor as New Jersey is very urban and moderate, but will cost him in the more rural states. I am myself pro gun control, but just saying in today’s GOP, there is zero tolerance for anyone who isn’t 100% pro second amendment.

    • Al in Cranbrook says:

      Watched a vid today of a rally for Rubio in NH. Difference between him and the rest of the crowd? In a word, “inspirational”, something Americans haven’t heard a lot of from Republican presidential candidates since Reagan. Certainly not from the likes of Christie, who in all likelihood will be watching the next debate from his couch in Jersey.

      Conversely, the choices for the Dems: Clinton, whose packing more baggage than a UPS 747, and will be damn lucky if she isn’t indicted before the primaries are half done. And whom a great many think, if she’s not indicted, it will only be because Obama ran interference for her. And a soured old curmudgeon with a chip on his shoulder, who arguably is to the left of Marx, who figured out, like the good socialist he is, that there’s a lot of votes to be had from the under 25 crowd by promising pretty much everything for free for the rest of their lives.

      Watching the two of them bicker over who is the most “progressive” is about the most mind numbing crap I’ve witnessed in politics since I can’t remember when. Good grief, FDR and JFK must be spinning in their graves! The new Liberalism: Ask not what you can do for your country, but how much your country can grease you with other peoples’ money for your vote.

  4. Jack D says:

    The one time Chris Christie shows life on this campaign trail, he shit kicks Marco Rubio back into the 8th grade. Just for the sake of appreciating political debates and posturing, I think Christie pulled one out of the bag last night taking on Rubio as the defacto establishment candidate. He got caught completely off guard and failed to respond with a strong rebuttal. Totally brutal/hilarious.

    Good on Christie though; some fantastic debate prep on his party.

  5. Mike says:

    At least he didn’t get thirsty and reach off camera awkardly for a bottle of water. 😀

  6. Tim White says:

    Hillary Clinton is easily to the right of Eisenhower. Maybe even a little to the right of Reagan. In a parallel universe Hillary is the GOP nominee and Sanders takes up the mantle for the democrats.

    Al’s point is a good one. These people running for the GOP are simply not ready for the job, although I’d give Kasich a pass at this point. (but he’s vp at best) If the Republican nominee wins the presidency it’s going to be unpredictable.

  7. godot10 says:

    The most dangerous thing about Rubio is that sign behind him “A New American Century”

    That means he is putting himself in the camp of the hardest of the hard core of neoconservatives…Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Abrams, and Kagan…who founded The Project for A New American Century in the nineties who main policy was regime change throughout the Middle East…essentially all the main players in George W. Bush’s administration.

  8. Ronald O'Dowd says:


    Our PM is never Commander in Chief. Game changer. (Johnston has got that job.)

    In this debate Rubio proved himself to be both unfit and unready. Time to move on. He makes Obama look better. How ironic is that?

    • jack D says:

      Game changer, how exactly?

      Johnston may be the constitutional commander-in-chief in a ceremonial capacity, but he has no functional power in that role. He wouldn’t be able to unilaterally instruct the RCAF at his behest. That power falls on her Majesty’s cabinet/Minister of Defence whom all happen to be appointed (on recommendation) by the PM.

      It doesn’t mean anything if the PM doesn’t officially hold the title. It is understood that as the leader of the party that has been elected into power, he/she is entrusted to lead the government in the House of Commons (who represent the will of Canadians) with the collective responsibility of a commander-in-chief.

      Its a much better system than the American one, with no less significance.

      • Ronald O'Dowd says:


        Forgive my sloppiness. It’s a game changer in the sense that all candidates in the U.S. are perceived first and foremost, through the Commander in Chief lens. Rubio lost ground based on that metric.

        As you said Jack, here the powers of the CIC rest with cabinet. Makes people less antsy about a new rookie prime minister. Many minds to mull it over rather than one individual.

  9. Jon Evan says:

    He’s young, attractive, and got nice black hair!
    He’s charismatic, bright, energetic, and cheerful with many sunny things to say.
    Who’s he up against on the democratic side?
    Well, not young, but tired, and not bubbling with much energy these days! But who is at 69?
    Like JT coming in after an old worn out gov’t!
    Who would you choose?

  10. Russ says:

    Michael Bloomberg is about to change the entire game

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