03.04.2016 11:10 AM

PM-Premiers confab: highly scientific poll™!

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  1. Aongasha says:

    Gotta give Chris Hall credit. When he’s not trying to kiss Liberal arse, he usually nails it.
    This is the real summation of what happened.
    ANALYSIS First ministers’ next steps on carbon pricing obscured by smog: Chris Hall
    And as noted elsewhere, still using Harper’s emission targets and no chance of meeting Paris commitments.
    Stunny Daze eh?

  2. Sean says:

    At this stage, I’m not sure why meetings such as this even receive media coverage.

  3. The Doctor says:

    The real story is Trudeau Jr.’s gutlessness in refusing to push a BC-style carbon tax — despite the fact that he has a stable majority government and very high approval ratings. The fact that he’s not willing to spend one iota of that massive political capital to do the right and most effective things speaks volumes.

  4. Jack D says:

    Basically, how you think of yesterdays talks depends largely on what you expected going in.

    If you expected that the meeting would have solved climate change and that an agreement to leave 80% of Canada’s resources in the ground, then you were sorely disappointed.

    If you expected a bunch of platitude tossing politicians to have talked about tackling climate change while slapping costly taxes on the oil industry, then you were also disappointed.

    If you, like a majority of Canadians, expected the federal government and provincial governments to finally sit down together after a decade and actually talk about producing some collective goals based on consensus, then yesterday was a success.

    Depending on how much of a partisan you are, you likely feel quite strongly about one of these perspectives. At the end of the day, the federal government and provincial governments are finally talking to each other directly. Yesterday may have been about the environment, and I suspect everyone will walk away with some measure of success come fall when they meet again, but it was also about communication. The old foot stomping petulance of yore just won’t work in an environment thats conducive to discussion and consensus building. Regardless of your views on Trudeau, it is undeniable that this man has fostered a cooperative relationship across Canadians governments like no other previous PM has before. And that, is a success by an measure.

    • Warren says:

      Jesus, are you ever humourless. Did you read the post? Did you read the “poll?”

      I’ll bet you used to be a Dipper. They don’t think anything is amusing.

      • Cath says:

        Read the post? Me thinks not.

        On the PM-Premier’s PR stunt. Didn’t work for me. Waste of their time and our money with for zero results.

    • The Doctor says:

      “it is undeniable that this man has fostered a cooperative relationship across Canadians(sic) governments like no other previous PM has before.”

      Yeah, that’s the obvious conclusion to draw, given that JT has been in office for 4 months, Canada has had 22 other Prime Ministers and has existed for almost 150 years. If you’re not working for the PMO, you should really consider applying for a job there.

  5. Dennis Wilson says:

    Nothing Canada does in reducing carbon has any relevance to worldwide emissions. Just ignore all this unless it leads to more taxes.

  6. Lyndon Dunkley says:

    The more I read about politicians pushing carbon dioxide taxes, the more I feel they are same type of folks that would support a dihydrogen monoxide ban.

  7. Ronald O'Dowd says:


    They agree — to disagree and conveniently kick the old can down the road.

    • The Doctor says:

      Punting contentious matters seems to be an emerging M.O. of this government — the marijuana issue being the most shining example. The trick, of course, is to dress up a punt as “further consultation”. You can envision Nigel Hawthorne in Yes, Minister explaining that one. Spin sheer political cowardice into something responsible and virtuous.

      • Ronald O'Dowd says:

        The Doctor,

        I wouldn’t extend the analysis quite as far as you do. It’s not so much cowardice as a wish by an incoming government to get as many wins in succession, in as short a time period as politically possible. The PM has to leave the impression that he is really up to the job. Without that, they would be doomed to political failure. I won’t draw conclusions after a mere hundred days, or any other recent benchmark.

        However, once they hit the one-year mark, we will know whether they are a success or not. Benevolence once squandered is usually very hard to win back.

  8. e.a.f. says:

    I’m just glad they didn’t show any clips of the photo op queen, Christy clark.

    That “B.C. style” carbon tax ought to be none starter. Schools, hospitals, they all have to pay. School boards in B.C. are facing rising costs with no additional funding from the provincial government. One of those rising costs, all the money needed to pay for the carbon taxes. The solution, lay off teachers, larger class rooms, and closing school. I’m sure the rest of Canada doesn’t need that along with more poverty.

    Carbon taxes are just another method of taxing people and right now, we can’t afford anymore especially those of us in B.C.

  9. Brammer says:

    There should have been a 5th poll choice:

    “Wait, a PM met with the premiers?”

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