— Musings —12.06.2018 11:03 PM
The honeymoon lasted as long as the wedding
— Musings —12.06.2018 11:03 PM
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Interesting. Still on top though.
I don’t really believe that many would actually vote Liberal were an election happening at the moment — the (presumed, on my part) chaos of the post-Wynne period would be too great to be worth a vote, just yet.
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Yeah, still on top but come 2022 the PC’s will be relegated to third. Repealing the clean water act and getting rid the environmental commissioner will haunt this government for years to come. But hey, getting rid of clean water to own the libs!
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Right or wrong, Ontario just elected a party that was in total chaos for the entire first half of 2018. I don’t think that internal party chaos is remotely a factor in voter decisions at this point. In June, they voted resoundly against Wynne. The question is whether Ford will be as broadly hated by voters by the time 2022 comes around.
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If the Conservatives wanted to engage with voters they wouldn’t have put up a porcupine with a pigpen do.
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Ekos? Give us a break! Owned by a Liberal party member, donor and adviser. Even CBC dumped Frank because of bias and you have to go pretty far with that bunch, before they get rid of you for being too much of a Liberal gofer.
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Oh yeah? What’s your polling firm, anonymous guy?
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https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/fed-conservatives-poised-to-win-majority-if-election-held-today-forum-poll
This has about the same relevance. Face it, how many folks do you know who are ever polled. And how many do you think, other than the partisans, are telling the truth to a voice on the telephone.
That’s aside from the point that polls mostly reflect the wishes of those who commission them.
Although of them all I might be inclined to trust Angus Reid most.
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Well, I have to agree with this to some degree. My own father was unlike me, a staunch Harper supporter. But that wasn’t what he told pollsters. He either said his vote was confidential or that he would support whatever party happened to be leading in recent polls.
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Then there’s this;
Conservatives 35, Liberals 34, NDP 14, Green 8, People’s 1: Nanos National Newswatch:
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EKOS, aside from a rouge poll during the campaign that showed the NDP up huge (Graves claimed it was only half a polling cycle and was never meant to be made public) pretty much nailed the final result of June’s election regarding vote percentage and was only a few off in their seat projection.
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You are a moron, “JH”.
Ekos is a reliable pollster. They were almost dead on their their Ontario election polls.
http://www.ekospolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/20180612_slide01.png
I’m so tired of partisan hacks who just shoot their mouths off without actually knowing much (or anything) about which they speak.
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Nanos Pollara, Abacus, Ekos etc, are owned by Lib supporters, donors and advisers. With the LPC taint, there’s absolutely no way we can believe in or trust these polls. CBC also uses them in their Poll Tracker so that’s skewed to favor the Libs as well.
Then there’s also the obfuscation factor with so many folks who lie to telephone pollsters, thus creating the many misses we’ve witnessed over the years. Only real polls are in the voting
booths, not counting the ones Diefenbaker said dogs use.
As for the name calling, that says more about you than about me.
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This is Ford’s light-switch moment.
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first he has to find it. in the dark. on a floor covered in marbles. in bare feet. in prime time.
say goodnight Gracie.
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I would hazard a guess that Liberal fortunes jumped dramatically the day after Wynn announced her intention to step aside.
Now, what’s Sandra up to these days?
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This is when we learn if Ford can learn from his mistakes. . . or not.
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Make no mistake — Hydro One’s failure is entirely Doug Ford’s doing
https://www.thestar.com/business/opinion/2018/12/07/make-no-mistake-hydro-ones-failure-is-entirely-doug-fords-doing.html?fbclid=IwAR1Wn4wNJzQwcJaIrEDM8T0kiuMmnPMGTjYvv8G1ADm7qvO9xqD_eUqFveY
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-moodys-downgrades-ontarios-credit-rating-citing-revenue-cuts-under/?
Moody’s Downgrades Ontario’s credit rating, citing revenue cuts under Doug Ford
fbclid=IwAR0yXLwSCRBlMwrQqg8B3LJmduSudn9hmmNqObUbZsSaUKe2uLKPFtE336k
OPP interim commissioner asks ombudsman to review Taverner’s appointment over ‘potential political interference’
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/12/11/opp-interim-commissioner-asks-ombudsman-to-review-taverners-appointment-over-potential-political-interference.html?fbclid=IwAR1z-dc85QBOqrXS2C9qZp9YKGCF5pJHBTRDM4SNG0bYl4qMd7Ogr5nDzW4