, 09.25.2019 09:56 AM

No, this doesn’t sound at all like Trump asked a foreign power to investigate a US citizen who happens to be a political rival, not at all

Because that would be a high crime and an impeachable offence.

“There is a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution, and a lot of people want to find out about that. So whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great.”

 

37 Comments

  1. Peter says:

    Anyone who has been following American political discourse in the past three years know it’s all about reacting to and rejecting whatever the other side and their media lackeys say. The legalities of impeachment may fascinate lawyers, but the 45% who approve of Trump will double down and at least some of the independent middle will be turned off by what they see as a naked power grab by people who can’t win elections. Plus the Dem debates are working their way towards a suicidal own goal. I’m seriously wondering whether winning in 2020 really is the priority for many of them.

    Game-Set-Match, Trump.

    • The Doctor says:

      Aaah yes, Trump, always the 4D Chess Master. He probably planned all of this, just to troll the hapless liberals.

      • Peter says:

        No, it really is an own goal. The Dems’ monomaniacal fixation combined with the MSM’s highly profitable 24/7 “shocked and appalled” coverage is proving to be a lifeline for him. Warren wrote about this very problem just a few weeks ago. By playing the impeachment card in such nebulous circumstances, the Dems have pretty much guaranteed all the focus in 2020 will continue to be on Trump and not on what they are offering the electorate.

        Scheer would be wise not to play the blackface card for much longer. Surely those who plans to change their vote because of it have already decided?

    • Ronald O'Dowd says:

      Peter,

      Then the Clinton impeachment was a discredited and flawed sham by people who couldn’t win elections? Read Republicans.

      • Fred from BC says:

        “Then the Clinton impeachment was a discredited and flawed sham by people who couldn’t win elections?

        No, that one was a little different, Ronald. Clinton was caught sexually exploiting an intern in the Oval Office, then lied about it.

  2. Harry Belafonte says:

    This is the smoking gun that finally is worth impeaching? Trudeau did worse for SNC. Not a Trump fan, but this isn’t what the media was promising…

  3. Christoph Dollis says:

    I get your point. However, it’s a weird set of facts, since Biden is almost certainly guilty as sin.

    AND the Obama “Justice Department” were bugging the Trump campaign, filing false FISA Court applications to get fraudulent warrants, launched a fake the new President is a Russian agent coup attempt, etc. I can see why Trump is pissed.

  4. David says:

    It’s exhausting following all this stuff in the US, but didn’t Biden threaten to withhold aid to Ukraine unless the prosecutor stopped investigating his son’s company??

    • I understand the prosecutor had stopped investigating the company at that point and there are trans-national agreement that the prosecutor was turning a blind eye to corruption and had to go. Replacing him increased to risk to his son’s company.

    • Ronald O'Dowd says:

      David,

      Nope. Biden was pushing for the removal of a serially corrupt prosecutor — and it only and finally happened BECAUSE OF Biden.

      • Fred from BC says:

        “Nope. Biden was pushing for the removal of a serially corrupt prosecutor — and it only and finally happened BECAUSE OF Biden.”

        No, David is correct: Joe Biden DID threaten to withhold those funds (he even laughed and bragged about it later), and that is the basis for the current investigation (was that Biden’s job at the time, investigating foreign prosecutors? Why did he not do the same with every other Eastern European country, then?)

        And Donald Trump, like him or not, did NOT ask the Ukraine to investigate Biden, he actually asked them to assist in a US investigation of Biden. There’s a world of difference, legally.

        This will go nowhere, sorry. I know you want Trump gone (so do I) but this won’t do it. This plays right into his hands and ends up making him stronger. There’s a reason why his popularity right now is higher than Obama’s was at the same point, and the Democrats and MSM had better get their act together ASAP if they are to have any hope of defeating him.

  5. Kris says:

    This has less traction than the whole collusion story. At least then they had a fake dossier. It is going to be very hard to link the holding back of military funds and this phone call.

    Its more incriminating for Biden and if you want a real conspiracy theory then the whole reason behind this latest “scandal” is to take down Biden as a contender.

    The whole Democratic party is imploding very quickly. Name one thing they have to show for the last four years. Moreover, the current slate of hopefuls have nothing to offer to the core party faithful. A dildo salesman selling to a convent would have more luck and tact .

    Like it or not Trump for another term.

    • Ronald O'Dowd says:

      Kris,

      Sorry but you forgot about Trump’s accelerating cognitive impairment. Try to keep up.

      • Kris says:

        Impairment -perhaps. But what psychological/mental handicap do you attribute to the Democrats’ obsession with impeaching Trump? Perhaps knowing they cannot beat him at the polls.

        Trying to keep up? Ask yourself how well your astute spider sense was during last US election? The slate of Democrat hopefuls is contrary to the US psyche. It could have been a Democratic win but something is afoul in the party that centrist are gutted and discarded.

        See you in a little over a year from now…

        • Kris,

          Your points are well taken if the next election is based on conventional wisdom readouts where conservatives vote in droves in tandem with non-alienated independents. (That’s how Trump won.) But if it plays out as Obama’s first election did, young people will mobilize as they did in the last mid-terms and vote in record numbers. If it’s really a change-metric election in monumental voting percentages, then Trump is done in 2020.

    • Fred from BC says:

      “the whole reason behind this latest “scandal” is to take down Biden as a contender.”

      If recent polls are to be believed, he is already finished.

    • Fred from BC says:

      “This has less traction than the whole collusion story. At least then they had a fake dossier. ”

      Agreed. the more information that comes out (and the more the American news media is forced to ‘correct’ their original reporting), the more it look like the fallout from this thing is going to land squarely on Joe Biden.

  6. Bill says:

    Problem is, this is only helping Trudeau. Just another distraction IMHO. Trump is dumb and Trudeau is dumber.

    Let’s stick to Canadian politics until the Canadian elections are over. Unless you’re an American citizen, you can’t vote Trump out, but we can vote our Idiot in Chief out. Trump has a higher approval rating the Trudeau – go figure. But Trudeau still has a very good chance of being re-elected.

    Stay focused – Trudeau Not As Advertise – boot him out – worry about Trump as soon as Trudeau is removed from office.

  7. Ted says:

    Same question as always, will the GOP turn on him?

    I/m guessing no.

    And he just keeps moving the sticks.

    Johnson, Orban, Bolsanaro, Modi. They are all applauding and taking notes.

    Putin and Xinping nod approvingly.

    Iggy Pop says America is rocking in a different way now, and he’s glad he won’t be around to see what happens.

    Greta Thunberg stands up for the rest of us.

    • Fred from BC says:

      “Greta Thunberg stands up for the rest of us.”

      Greta Thunberg stands up only for the activists and politicians who are so busy manipulating her for political gain that they don’t care what actually happens to her.

  8. Walter says:

    Who cares. What’s more important, the facts or the “whistle blowers” impressions of the facts.

  9. Walter says:

    Is Nothing Burger 1 word or 2?.

    • Robert White says:

      Nothingburger is one word. I saw Conrad Black use the word once, and he is an excellent writer IMHO.

      Vote Trump for prison!

      Lock him up!

      RW

      • lyn says:

        How about we Vote Trudeau for Prison. He hasn’t done anything for this country other than lie and is a proven liar at that…video tapes galore.
        VOTE OUT TRUDEAU OCT 21/19!

        VOTE TRUMP MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

  10. Ronald O'Dowd says:

    Impeachment of any president is a complete sham and farce cause the United States Senate will never, ever, convict at trial.

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