02.24.2020 02:06 PM

Bernie Sanders gives an honest answer – for the first time ever

Cooper: Do you have — a price tag for all of these things?

Sanders: No, I don’t.

31 Comments


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    Steve T says:

    If I were the Republicans, I would just play that 60 Minutes interview over and over again. What a disaster, and what an insight into how shallow Bernie’s thinking is, on many issues.

    “What do we want?”
    “More stuff!”
    “Who should pay for it?”
    “Someone else!”


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      Fred from BC says:

      The Simpsons…the episode about The Garbage Man…


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    Ronald O'Dowd says:

    Steve,

    For sure, Sanders has absolutely no more credibility than Trump has on debt and deficits. Read: for both NONE whatsoever.


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    Karen DeCristoforo says:

    Warren, can you please explain to me how Bernie can run as a Democrat when he sits as an Independent, how does this work?


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      Warren says:

      Same damn question I’ve been asking for years!


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        Ronald O'Dowd says:

        One can only assume he was required to take out a party membership before he could run — but more likely, it’s based on his registration in Vermont.


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      Ronald O'Dowd says:

      Karen,

      He caucuses with Senate Democrats.


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    Des says:

    The Democrats probably wouldn’t be in this situation with Bernie if any journalist (and I mean ANY) had the stones to ask him even 4 months ago why his positions on everything haven’t changed in the last 40 years. Why is AIPAC bad but Fidel Castro good? His position on Maduro? His promises to increase the minimum wage from $7.75 to $15? Tax-payer funded healthcare? Free college and university tuition? Green New Deal? No one has challenged him until now on all of these insane ideas. Why the hell not? Now that they’re realizing that he’s probably going to be the nominee they’re finally starting to do the work they should have done a long time ago. He got a free pass for too long both in the media and within the Democratic Party.


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      Ronald O'Dowd says:

      Des,

      Hardly. A lot of his ideas are now mainstream Democrat. Trouble is, they aren’t mainstream Independent.


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      Quo Vadis says:

      The Dems had four years to fix themselves and find good policy and a sellable contender but they squandered the time with petty and foolish politics: Russia, impeachment and more. They lost four years ago and still cannot believe it and don’t have temerity to analyze why.


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        Fred from BC says:

        ^^^
        This.


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          Des says:

          For the last 4 years all the Democrats had to do was not be insane… and they couldn’t do it.


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      Darwin O'Connor says:

      Many of these positions are the status quo in Canada.


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    Miles Lunn says:

    How many Americans do you think pay attention to British politics? If they had, shouldn’t have they learned from Corbyn’s recent drubbing. True Johnson is not nearly as right wing or as erratic as Trump, but UK is also more left leaning than US is and should be warning you promise the moon, no one believes you. Trump is probably feeling very good about his chances as he knows things like banning private health insurance, tax hikes on anyone making over 29K (which is most working Americans), banning fracking (say goodbye to winning Pennsylvania), and doubling size of federal government are toxic amongst swing voters. Some swing voters will reluctantly vote Bernie to get rid of Trump but many of those may vote Republican down ballot to act as a check on him instead of a straight ticket. Others will stay home, go for third parties, and some may even plug their nose and vote Trump.


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      Ronald O'Dowd says:

      Miles,

      Sanders is not even the presumptive nominee yet. Maybe after Super Tuesday and maybe not.


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      Fred from BC says:

      “and some may even plug their nose and vote Trump.”

      Yeah, like the millions of black and Latino voters who are working now for the first time in years. They might not like Donald Trump, but they do like working.


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        Ronald O'Dowd says:

        Fred,

        But do they like working for peanut minimum wage rates in many states?


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          Fred from BC says:

          “But do they like working for peanut minimum wage rates in many states?”

          Apparently they do.

          (probably because money buys a lot more down there than it does here)

          They could easily have moved to an adjacent state to work for higher wages, but the work just wasn’t there…now it is.


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    Dawn Mills says:

    A pox on both Trump and likely Sanders.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/483844-ill-sit-out-this-presidential-election-because-of-the-yahoos-running


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    the real Sean says:

    One thing modern voters are remarkably consistent on is their ambivalence towards plans.


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    lungta says:

    MAGA
    hearkens back to a time when corporate tax rates were as high as 40%; personal taxes about the same after a determined amount.
    Dropping a few wars also could help with financing.
    Maybe chase a couple of off shore accounts.
    There is tons of money if you quit giving it to the rich people


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      Ronald O'Dowd says:

      Lungta,

      To paraphrase the famous quote: there are only two real kinds of Republicans: the rich and unusually gullible suckers.


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      Miles Lunn says:

      Problem is corporations are highly mobile so obviously many will still stay in the US, but they will move what they can offshore. Ever wonder why many tech companies like Google and Amazon have their European headquarters in Ireland?, its their low corporate tax rate.

      On taxing rich, there is the Laffer curve and while economists disagree where the peak is, its unlikely it will be enough to fund Sander’s pledges. Yes taxes on rich can and should go up in US, but even if raised to 100%, 90% or whatever it would still fall short. Only way it could be funded is dramatically raise taxes on middle class.


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    joe says:

    I think Bernie knows how much his plans will cost and how he will pay for them.

    But he’ll tell Americans after he’s elected. In the mean time it’s promise lots of free stuff.

    If elected look for:
    – VAT of 20%; slightly less than they have in Europe
    – hefty carbon tax
    – wealth tax


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    Fred from BC says:

    The thing that Canadian voters have to keep in mind when they look at Bernie and say, “yeah…so? He’s a socialist…so what? is that the USA has a far different political spectrum than we do. Our Conservatives would be Democrats down there. They have no equivalent to the Liberals (the term “liberal” being a political insult down there, like “commie” or “pinko”), and as I’ve said before the NDP would be flat-out illegal (just as the Communist Party is). Bernie would be NDP up here.

    He has zero chance of beating Donald Trump, sorry. It’s a nice fantasy and all, but it’s just not happening…


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      Ronald O'Dowd says:

      Fred,

      0% chance is not credible. Like you, I think Trump wins unless he becomes totally cognitively incapacitated between now and November. But if young people do what they did for Obama in 2008, then Trump is done. I set the odds of victory at 33% right now. That number can either go down or up.


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        Fred from BC says:

        Well, young people probably aren’t going to be too enthused about an old guy like Bernie (especially when the attack ads come out targeting him on certain weaknesses)…but okay, I’ll go up to, say, a 5% chance for Bernie against Donald Trump.

        In other news, Joe Biden’s 28% lead in South Carolina (against Warren) is now a 5% lead (against Sanders). Oh, and he now denies ever using the term “firewall” to describe South Carolina even though he’s been recorded doing so numerous times.


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          Ronald O'Dowd says:

          Fred,

          That denial reminds us of whom? Oh yeah, the other idiot.


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            Fred from BC says:

            “That denial reminds us of whom? Oh yeah, the other idiot.”

            In some ways, yes. But Trump tends to fabricate or exaggerate stuff to pump himself and his accomplishments up. Joe Biden comes out with statements that are virtually incomprehensible, like his most recent “I’m Joe Biden and I’m running for the US Senate. If you don’t like me, you can vote for the other Biden”.

            ??? (Senate? Other Biden? What are you talking about, Joe?)

            Or this: “150 million Americans have died since 2007 because gun manufacturers can’t be sued.”

            Say what? About 2.4 to 2.8 millions Americans die every year of *all causes* (heart attack, cancer, auto accident, old age, etc), never mind the guns. Not even close to being true, sorry.

            Like it or not, even Trump hasn’t expressed this level of confusion. It’s time to get Joe Biden OUT OF THERE, now; keeping him in this race is just cruel and selfish, and it’s only getting worse.


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          Darwin O'Connor says:

          Bernie has long been more popular amoung young people them old people. I guess young people admire someone who has consistently fought for his values for his entire life.


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            Ronald O'Dowd says:

            Darwin,

            Not always. Remember how Sanders was first not in favour of suing gun manufacturers or background checks? Not in recent years however, more precisely, since 2016.

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