04.08.2020 01:43 PM

Those who can, do.

Those who can’t do anything right, run for leader of the Conservative Party.


  1. PJH says:


  2. My phone is purposely programmed in French so I’ve got to be doubly careful or else…surprise.

  3. Jim R says:

    oy vey.

    It’s looking more and more like Trudeau vs MacKay would be an instance of dumb and dumber (though which is which is debatable).

    Hopefully the CPC picks O’toole as leader, as he at least seems competent.

  4. Steve Teller says:

    Good grief. And this is the most seasoned politician amongst the CPC leadership candidates. Between this and the tone-deaf “let the contest proceed” comments, I think MacKay’s chances are decreasing daily.

  5. Wes W says:

    Haha and adversity too.

  6. Douglas W says:

    O’Toole, in a landslide.

    • Fred from BC says:

      Not gonna be any landslide, not when one candidate already has such a formidable lead (rightly or wrongly). Hopefully it won’t go too far the other way, as it did last time (13 ballots?).

      Marilyn Gladu might be a good choice.

      I don’t know either one, though. Seems like the CPC is suffering the same as the DNC down south: lack of big-name talent. It’s never a good thing when you bring up the name of a potential candidate and the response is “who?”…

      • Ronald O'Dowd says:


        Is Gladu back in?

      • PJH says:

        I didnt think Marilyn Gladu made the cut, though perhaps with the race delayed, she’s been given a reprieve….

        • Fred from BC says:

          You never know. I still hold a forlorn hope for Rona to jump in, or maybe Lisa…but that won’t happen either. We’ll either end up with Peter McKay (because of his name recognition) or a little-known person who won’t stand a chance in the next election.

          (could be worse, though. We could be talking about the Democrats, who are still pretending to have a candidate while actually scrambling behind the scenes to find one…)

    • Ronald O'Dowd says:


      A lot of talk about O’Toole supposedly pretending to be a social and law and order conservative when apparently he really isn’t in that mold. No idea if it’s true.

      • Douglas W says:

        Mistake prone MacKay is good news for the Liberals.
        O’Toole, looking solid.
        Thinks before he speaks.
        No back peddling.
        Can hold his own in French.

        Sure, off the hop, MacKay had the war chest + the support.
        Will the support still be there in the fall?
        I have my doubts.
        What say you?

        • Douglas,

          I’m hardly impartial since I’m backing MacKay but I would say that Trudeau’s slip of the tongue has sufficiently mitigated this gaffe. But I do agree that Peter and his team have to be far more watchful going forward. They don’t want to — and it’s not in their interest — to reach Stanfield’s football fumble status. In fact, Stanfield made most of the catches that day but he DID missed one and voilà, the Liberals wisely pounced on it!

          • Douglas W says:

            Trudeau’s hilarious slip of the tongue will be forgotten by Monday.

            As for poor Robert Stanfield (best PM we never had):
            the Toronto Star (no surprise) pounced all over the Canadian Press wire photo.

            And, in the tradition of pack journalism, everyone followed suit.

      • Fred from BC says:

        ” when apparently he really isn’t in that mold. ”

        I keep hearing Red Tory, trying to appeal to the other side.

        You know him better than I do, I’m sure, being from that side of the country. I had never heard of him or Marilyn Gladu before this leadership race…they don’t get any press out here in BC.

        • Fred,

          I consider both MacKay and O’Toole Blue Tories but they do have considerable Red Tory tinges and somewhat of a social conscience. But they aren’t the Liberals by any stretch of the imagination and certainly not social democrats like the NDP.

  7. Chris Sigvaldason says:

    “Is it?”
    The conservatives are ridding themselves of a leader who clumsily stepped on every landmine he saw, only to replace him with a leader who gleefully steps on every landmine he sees. Face palm.

  8. Doug Ford for the next federal election…the one after Mr. MacKay is soundly thrashed by Justin. The more the public sees of Peter, I suspect the less they will like him.

    • ER,

      IMHO, the next election is Trudeau’s to lose right now. But that could change. This PM has helped himself on COVID-19. A lot of fellow Conservatives are pleased as punch to quickly get their first cheque. However, most of them tell me they’re still voting CPC.

      • Douglas W says:

        Justin helps himself.
        Then pivots, and hurts himself.

        My sense: if he thinks there are winning conditions, then he’s going to damn the torpedoes and call a vote.
        Perhaps as early as the fall.

        Huge roll of the dice.
        But he also knows, the voters aren’t faced with a whole lot of other options: it’s MacKay or Singh.

        Neither makes the Liberals tremble.

        • Ronald O'Dowd says:


          I don’t agree with MacKay that an election within a year is in the CPC’s political interest. People, by and large, in a minority context, want parties to work together for the good of the nation. They don’t want an early or opportunistically timed election so Liberals had better watch it, to use a Martin phrase.

        • Fred from BC says:

          “My sense: if he thinks there are winning conditions, then he’s going to damn the torpedoes and call a vote.”

          You mean engineer his own defeat, since his minority government doesn’t have the power to actually call an election.

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