08.05.2020 12:13 PM

“WE” are killing the Trudeau government


  1. Pedant says:

    Half a trillion dollars taken from taxpayers and future taxpayers to shower onto non-taxpayers (including foreign students) to buy their votes and incentivizing them NOT to work. All for no sustained political benefit.

    Given the transfer from contributors to non-contributors, I’m not surprised that the Liberals are still more popular than ice cream and puppies in Atlantic Canada.

    • Derek Pearce says:

      I pay taxes. I also lost my job for 10 weeks and thankfully CERB was there to get me through it. Fuck you.

      Also, if Mackay even hints at what you’ve just said in any upcoming election the Cons will be toast. I can’t stand Trudeau and the Liberal Party is stupid for not dumping him asap but millions of hardworking people who lost their jobs through no fault of their own despise sentiments like yours.

      • Pedant says:

        If 10 weeks without work would have been enough to financially ruin you, then you probably haven’t been the most prudent individual when it comes to financial planning and saving a rainy day fund.

        We already have an EI program so I don’t see why we needed this one to dole out money to teenagers living at home and foreign nationals, among others, with virtually zero oversight. We’ve learned recently that many people received DOUBLE payments of CERB and there are already people whining to exempt CERB from taxation next year. Where does it end?

        Admittedly my wording was a bit harsh but I think that if the Conservatives frame themselves as the party of the taxpayer – that hardworking soul means-tested, immorally, by the Liberals out of the very benefits they pay for – it will pay political dividends.

        • Do those who commit the crime of not being prudent deserve a sentence of homelessness and suffering that would result?

          • Pedant says:

            You’re obfuscating the point, as usual, which is that people should live within their means and be responsible for their actions. I guess those notions are old-fashioned to Liberals who prefer stealing from the responsible to give to the irresponsible.

          • Ronald O'Dowd says:


            That’s all well and good but the point is that government is supposedly a legitimate tool for the common good and that means doing whatever it can to prevent people from living on the streets by way of tranfers to other orders of government or by direct means. The best government, of any political stripe, is the one that asks with great regularly What would Jesus do?

            So Darwin wins this round. Humanity above all else, yes even above individual and governmental fiscal discipline.

        • Gord says:

          The Liberals have been a fantastic government for the uber-wealthy and the uber-poor. The vast swath of people in the middle who work for a living and pay for everything, not so much.

  2. Douglas W says:

    Libs still very strong in vote-rich areas like the GTA

    They’ll be fine.
    They’ll ride this out.

  3. Notice how no one in the end was thrown to the wolves. Not Chagger, not Morneau, not Trudeau.

    Quite obviously, they now have no choice but to select the highest quality prey with which to satiate the electoral hordes. And that means either Morneau or Trudeau has to go otherwise the polling trend is definitely irreversible.

    Morneau will be gone as Finance Minister soon enough. He will begrudgingly take a bullet for Team Trudeau as Morneau has no (other) option, to use an unforgettable Turnerism.

  4. joe long says:

    Perhaps ‘we’ ( the Canadian voter) are getting fed up with Team Trudeau’s sense of entitlement?

    Overheard while golfing, “Are we playing by Morneau rules?”

    “What’s that?”

    “You don’t count 41 strokes!”

  5. Mike says:

    Liberal vote strong. Just cons and dippers being pathetic losers. Dippers will still vote Liberal to stop cons.

    • Mike,

      I guess you just couldn’t resist coming back to see us in order to read our enlightened commentary on the sad state of affairs that is known as our current federal government.

      Tell me Mike, I’m curious. What’s the magic Liberal potion that will make things all right for this Prime Minister? Maybe the PM will dazzle us by informing us that he simply forget all about that dough that went straight up the old familial tree? Yeah, sure, that should work and turn them polls around. LOL.

  6. joe long says:

    Justin Trudeau said he pushed back on the WE recommendation and asked for due diligence to be done.

    What exactly was done and by whom? Perhaps it was just a Google search?

  7. Ron Benn says:

    It must be depressing to Zoom in to work at the Green Party HQ. Their support is 2% points below the BQ, even though the Green party is seeking support across Canada, while the BQ limits it’s attention span to Quebec.

    … and they wonder why they have to beg for an invitation to the debates.

  8. joe long says:

    What’s with all the criticism of our Governor General? She looked at how Trudeau treats himself (8 new boats, new cottage, major renos to Harrington Lake, campaigning with two jets, etc), his family (lots of WE money and free trips), and his cabinet colleagues (free trips, family jobs), and figured “Hey, I’ve got liberal views why can’t I live like Justin?”

  9. joe long says:

    “The Star has been asking government since Tuesday for the exact text of the public service recommendation on the program but has not received a response.”


    Whatever happened to the Liberals’ promise of open and transparent government?

    Trudeau experiences openness and transparency differently.

  10. Martin says:

    Just watching Finance from yesterday which I didn’t realize took place because the CBC seems to have moved on. Not very far through it although have seen Sorbarra embarrass himself for the first of what I assume will be many times. Kate Behan(the CI person) had a very good idea which I assume is out there and seems to be a brainless option. Increase the charity disbursement quota(the percentage of assets a charity has to spend annually) from 3.5% to 5%(the same as the US which is pushing for 10%). Would free up over a billion dollars which used to be real money at one time. 10% would free up another 4 billion or so.

  11. Martin says:

    Watched the end of the hearing. Vaughan’s bullying of Kate Behan did not work. What an ass. Last ten minutes or so.


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