11.14.2021 03:48 PM

This weeks Sparky: they do their own research

20 Comments

  1. Ronald O'Dowd says:

    There’s absolutely no hope for these people. Just today, Dad who was himself “recovering” from COVID-19 rushed his child to the emergency room. Fortunately, for his family, his child didn’t have COVID. But Mom couldn’t celebrate that fact because she was already dead from COVID-19…

  2. Gilbert says:

    Natural immunity applies to people who have had a disease and survived it. The problem with these vaccines is antibody enhancement dependence- the protection decreases significantly every month.

  3. Steve Teller says:

    Many anti-vaxxers rebut this fact with the argument that the COVID vaccine is still “experimental”. They say they might take it when it is more “proven”.

    Translation: AVs are too chicken-sh*t to be like the people in history who received vaccines shortly after their rollout. AVs want all of the reward and none of the risk – regardless how tiny the risk may be.

    Translation Part 2: they are selfish cowards.

  4. Ronald O'Dowd says:

    Just read Watt in The Star. He’s a little too enthusiastic about the leader and vaccines. In truth, Erin turned about as easily on this issue as your average aircraft carrier. O’Toole’s initial position and instincts were dead wrong — remember “challenging” what the BOIE decided? Sheer folly. It was only when we royally roasted him did reality sadly dawn on him and his office. Erin isn’t tone deaf but he isn’t quick off the mark either. So in short, still plenty of room for improvement before this party gets another credible second look from potential voters. Remember, we were ahead in the early weeks of the last campaign — and guess who blew it? Watt and others far too easily do not bear that in mind. Erin needs to continue improving as leader now that it’s clear that no block in caucus is going to try and give him the heave-ho. Erin gets one more conditional chance and only one. That’s reality.

    • J.Ph. Brunet says:

      Tim Hudak got a reprieve, too. How did that work out? Lack of royal jelly shows early, but perception ever fails in the Dominion of the Shilly-Shally.

      • Ronald O'Dowd says:

        Phil,

        I wasted my time in 2005 trying to help Jamieson give Harper the heave-ho so as the late H.W. would say: not gonna do it, not gonna do it! (This time.)

    • Phil,

      It’s my understanding that Pfizer and possibly the others are adding something to deal with these possible adverse effects. For now, I’m not getting excited. However, I will watch the percentages going forward.

    • Gilbert says:

      There are many treatments for the coronavirus. To get Emergency Use Authorization, the pharmaceutical industry had to convince us otherwise.

      • J.Ph. Brunet says:

        Claims that natural immunity isn’t adequate. Threats against doctors who report blood clots or anaphylatic shock in their patients. Burying unfavourable studies. Etc.
        Got to protect those Big Pharma profits at all costs. All costs.

        • Ronald O'Dowd says:

          Phil,

          If natural immunity is the bees’ knees, we wouldn’t have 5 million plus dead. But absolutely agree with that last paragraph. It’s all about the money first and public health second. No question about it.

          • J.Ph. Brunet says:

            There is no such thing as non-natural immunity. Vaccines–at least, real vaccines– don’t “give” you immunity. They give you the disease. In a weakened version, so the infection doesn’t kill you during the time it takes for the body to produce the necessary antibodies. Immunity comes form the immune system, not from the vaccine. Natural immunity is the only kind there is.
            An inconvenient fact, of course, for Big Pharma and its brown-envelope shills.

  5. Steve T says:

    Not sure if the point of the link was to imply the vaccines are unsafe (which is false), or to highlight the bottom of the CDC page which very clearly states the risk is extremely low compared to the benefits of vaccination.

    I’m hopeful the latter.

  6. J.Ph. Brunet says:

    FDA admits trials conducted by Pfizer were too short to determine long-term myocarditis risks in children:
    “The number of participants in the current clinical development program is too small to detect any potential risks of myocarditis associated with vaccination. Long-term safety of COVID-19 vaccine in participants 5 to <12 years of age will be studied in 5 post-authorization safety studies, including a 5-year follow-up study to evaluate long term sequelae of post-vaccination myocarditis/pericarditis."
    Source: https://www.fda.gov/media/153409/download

    • Ronald O'Dowd says:

      Phil,

      At minimum, this is screaming ouch! There is likely reason for concern but only an MD can say for sure or not. I’m not qualified to pass judgment but I’m worried nonetheless.

  7. Steve Teller says:

    This is to J.Ph.Brunet, who has monopolized the chat replies above with his dubious science, so I will reply here instead.

    You are fundamentally wrong about immunity. The body produces antibodies, and that is what confers some degree or another of immunity. It doesn’t matter why the body produces those antibodies – it could be from a vaccine, or from having the disease. I know this – I received an antibody test as part of a COVID study, and it came back positive. The scientists performing the study told me they have no way of knowing whether the antibodies were from catching COVID, or from the vaccinations I received.

    It is also a false, but common trope of AVs, that immunity from catching a disease is “better”. Again, the only thing that matters is the degree to which your body produces antibodies. Some people will produce only a small amount due to catching the disease, and others will produce a large amount due to receiving a vaccination. If disease-catching were the end all and be all, why do adults get shingles after having chicken pox as a child? Same virus.

  8. J.Ph. Brunet says:

    Me: “The body… produce[s] the necessary antibodies.” Dubious science.
    Nestor: “The body produces antibodies.” Lux veritatis.

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