When I saw that last night, I had to double and triple check that I was reading what I was actually reading. That poll means that they are down to the Liberal MPs, most(not all) of their immediate families, Curious and Scot.
If these polls keep going the way they are going(one can dream), the NDP could go back to being the official opposition like they were 10 years ago. “Shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves” doesn’t necessarily just apply to family money.
Liberal shrieks of “American-style far-right rhetoric” about Poilievre are doing nothing but cause people to roll their eyes. As Coyne recently said, people are tuning out Trudeau and his ministers (who remain anonymous to most Canadians).
The Liberals are bereft of ideas and in that sense have not moved forward from 2015. They want it to be 2015 again so badly that they’re in a form of collective denial, frozen in place.
The staff might think housing announcements, India allegations and appearances with Zelensky will change people’s minds.
They are dead wrong. It’s already permanently baked in that Justin’s failed career is over. The official appearances need to stop. They are only making people more angry.
There should only be one more appearance – to announce the resignation and kick off the Leadership race. After that, Justin Trudeau need never be heard from again.
Justin’s career has been thoroughly scarred by mounting shame and disgrace. The longer this parade of foolishness drags on, the more likely the end of his career will be similarly marked by shame and disgrace, making it more difficult for the Liberal Party to recover from Gerald and Katie’s decade of darkness.
More Kryptonite polling. Unfortunately, this is starting to look like peaking too soon season. The Liberals, under Trudeau, or someone else, will run out the clock in hopes that polling significantly changes going forward. That is not likely under Trudeau, unless Poilièvre makes a fatal mistake, which is unlikely. Don’t expect a Liberal mutiny as it ain’t happening, even with these numbers. So, this Prime Minister will go down and take the whole HMCS Trudeau with him. Watch them get seats in Ignatieff territory.
Trudeau’s polling numbers cannot be correlated
perfectly with Poilievre’s popularity numbers in any
sort of 1:1 ratio level data.
Poilievre’s CPC numbers will continue to rise as
people get tired of Trudeau’s & Freeland’s fireside
lectures every few days ad infinitum until Entertainment Tonight starts to look more informative than the nightly news for pundits.
I cannot stand anymore of the Liberal lectures or Liberal bobblehead time when they hold a news conference.
The LPC has enlisted legacy media to switch the page
to Ukraine & President Cap in hand-Z requesting
more money from Freeland. It’s interesting to see state
backing for NATO goals that will never be achieved, but what about that flood of new Canadians via wholesale immigration from the USA?
Did the federal government even bank on costs to
house new immigrants to Canada? Didn’t Macklam
tell Freeland to build more homes for immigrants
as he flooded Canada with more borrowed dollars
ahead of their arrival?
Certainly the LPC understood that new entrants into Canada would need a place to stay aside from the streets of Toronto.
I guess support for NATO in Latvia and Ukraine is
more important given Trudeau’s lagging popularity
numbers.
Small sample size with a MOE of 4% is accurate enough IMHO. Trudeau & Freeland are not doing
well enough to stay out of trouble. Poilievre will
be in trouble when the focus shifts to himself and
his Un electability.
I thought you and I (and others) learned that unelectability lesson when Trump won. And now that same POS looks likely, according to the latest polls, to beat Biden, unless he drops dead or goes to jail first.
Superpacs create corrupt billionaire faux-politicians
to run for public office in the USA so that corruption
is the norm to our South, but Canada is supposed to be governed via democratic process and Parliamentary democracy. Money cannot buy all the seats that the Conservatives need to win the GTA. Poilievre would have to move left in order to win the GTA and he won’t do it even if that’s the way to win the GTA. Unelectability in the USA isn’t the same thing as
unelectability in Canada, but I get your point.
I’m always wrong when it comes to prediction via
political races. In fact, I’m more often wrong than right when it comes to who will win an election. I try though.
Since the mic “scandal” has blown over, the Liberals are currently losing their shit, led by someone by the name of
Mark Gerretsen, because Pierre wasn’t clapping vigorously enough for the President of Ukraine. Given that the Liberals regularly clap like barking seals when their Dear Leader speaks, I am not sure anyone can rise to that level of rapture but I digress. So many questions. Are cameras even allowed to be used to take pictures and videos in the HOC? Even if so, shouldn’t even Marky Mark be self aware enough to see the irony of HIS behaviour while Zelensky was speaking and he was taking a video of Pierre? Anyone?
I agree that the LPC are a bunch of trained seals these days. The rhetoric is outsized and even Poilievre is looking acceptable by comparison, frankly.
Everyone that knows anything about politics has suggested that Justin should take a walk in the snow. Leadership leaves everyone wanting. Even Ford is back-peddling to save his career. And now Jagmeet Singh is looking ineffectual, too.
This is the most contentious week we’ve had in a long time vis-a-vis domestic politics and geopolitics. It managed to scrape cost of living debate off of media
attention entirely.
I know you don’t care for us. I get that. I hope you choose to vote Green or stay home. No one is more pathetic than the Siamese twins: Justin and Jagmeet. J&J, political box office poison.
I would have moved over to the Conservatives if
Erin O’Toole had not been turfed under leadership
review. The Conservative Party should have allowed
O’Toole to run against Trudeau a second time. O’Toole
would have been government in waiting if they had done that. Now we have to go through yet another newbie
having a first go against a veteran incumbent.
I liked O’Toole because he was working the center of
politics in Canada. He wasn’t fringe whereas Poilievre
is fringe due to his support for the truckers.
If you were running for office I’d get onside and vote for you, but you are not the leader of the party. The
Conservatives would give you the same difficult time that they gave O’Toole. They are overtly concerned about picking a fringe candidate to represent them.
Moreover, the American Republicans do the same thing when they choose a candidate to represent them. It’s not that I don’t care for Conservatives as much as I don’t think they are good representatives of the center of politics vis-a-vis the major metropolitan cities.
It’s interesting to think that the LPC and their shadow in Parliament are getting within sight of each other in this poll. Perhaps they will wave to each other as they pass, with the Liberals heading for the basement and the NDP stumbling around on the main floor.
Then Jagmeet Singh needs to find some spine and pull the plug on his Supply and Confidence Adventures.
Never going to happen. Singh couldn’t find his spine even if his doctor pointed it out. Another absolute political disgrace and wilful Trudeau Liberal lackey.
I doubt either CSIS or RCMP knew who was invited. And the TrueDumbsTM weren’t even bright enough to think about vetting. When Harper was PM, ordinary CPC members got vetted before being cleared to be in the room for one of his speeches. For the Harper government, national security was a top priority.
CSIS monitors everyone that has security clearance
under the RCMP 24/7/365. I have Enhanced Reliability
Status security clearance under the RCMP and CSIS monitors every key stroke I input via my keyboard
because of that.
Rota is monitored 24/7/365, too. And I can guarantee
all that CSIS knew who was visiting Parliament and so
did the RCMP. There are no excuses in this instance.
For my part, I have a large file. Two different PMOs didn’t/don’t like me. LOL. Of course, that doesn’t stop me. Not for one moment. It’s the Irish in me.
CSIS & RCMP would know who was visiting the gallery because names have to be submitted before people are allowed to enter the HOC. In brief, CSIS & RCMP probably didn’t know that Rota would recognize his constituent publicly given the scripted nature of the event, but his name was submitted and cleared by RCMP. If anyone had researched the past of the individual in question we can assume red flags would pop up. Additionally, all in the gallery has security passes attached to their suit lapel.
Lastly, if an MP wanted to recognize a Canadian sitting in the gallery it would be something that was scripted for the event. In this case, Rota went off-script to recognize a constituent without taking the time to go through vetting processes. He likely assumed nothing could go wrong with that sort of gesture, but we know that the RCMP & CSIS had the list of names submitted by HOC security process.
Number who answered poll questions = 608
Pretty small sample size. Is it really representative of the voting population?
How many hung up?
When I saw that last night, I had to double and triple check that I was reading what I was actually reading. That poll means that they are down to the Liberal MPs, most(not all) of their immediate families, Curious and Scot.
If these polls keep going the way they are going(one can dream), the NDP could go back to being the official opposition like they were 10 years ago. “Shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves” doesn’t necessarily just apply to family money.
Small sample size. Large margin of error.
But still.
Women over 65 keeping the Liberals above 20%.
Liberal shrieks of “American-style far-right rhetoric” about Poilievre are doing nothing but cause people to roll their eyes. As Coyne recently said, people are tuning out Trudeau and his ministers (who remain anonymous to most Canadians).
The Liberals are bereft of ideas and in that sense have not moved forward from 2015. They want it to be 2015 again so badly that they’re in a form of collective denial, frozen in place.
Half-decent polls have 1300 participants.
Highly reliable polls have at least 1700 respondents.
This one has 608.
Shrug.
The staff might think housing announcements, India allegations and appearances with Zelensky will change people’s minds.
They are dead wrong. It’s already permanently baked in that Justin’s failed career is over. The official appearances need to stop. They are only making people more angry.
There should only be one more appearance – to announce the resignation and kick off the Leadership race. After that, Justin Trudeau need never be heard from again.
Justin’s career has been thoroughly scarred by mounting shame and disgrace. The longer this parade of foolishness drags on, the more likely the end of his career will be similarly marked by shame and disgrace, making it more difficult for the Liberal Party to recover from Gerald and Katie’s decade of darkness.
I cannot stand the Liberals (I vote Conservative). However, I hope that the Conservatives do not underestimate Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party.
I also think that this poll seems like an outlier.
Warren,
More Kryptonite polling. Unfortunately, this is starting to look like peaking too soon season. The Liberals, under Trudeau, or someone else, will run out the clock in hopes that polling significantly changes going forward. That is not likely under Trudeau, unless Poilièvre makes a fatal mistake, which is unlikely. Don’t expect a Liberal mutiny as it ain’t happening, even with these numbers. So, this Prime Minister will go down and take the whole HMCS Trudeau with him. Watch them get seats in Ignatieff territory.
Funniest thing I saw today was that if these polls hold, China will have their work cut out for them.
Ha!
Trudeau’s polling numbers cannot be correlated
perfectly with Poilievre’s popularity numbers in any
sort of 1:1 ratio level data.
Poilievre’s CPC numbers will continue to rise as
people get tired of Trudeau’s & Freeland’s fireside
lectures every few days ad infinitum until Entertainment Tonight starts to look more informative than the nightly news for pundits.
I cannot stand anymore of the Liberal lectures or Liberal bobblehead time when they hold a news conference.
The LPC has enlisted legacy media to switch the page
to Ukraine & President Cap in hand-Z requesting
more money from Freeland. It’s interesting to see state
backing for NATO goals that will never be achieved, but what about that flood of new Canadians via wholesale immigration from the USA?
Did the federal government even bank on costs to
house new immigrants to Canada? Didn’t Macklam
tell Freeland to build more homes for immigrants
as he flooded Canada with more borrowed dollars
ahead of their arrival?
Certainly the LPC understood that new entrants into Canada would need a place to stay aside from the streets of Toronto.
I guess support for NATO in Latvia and Ukraine is
more important given Trudeau’s lagging popularity
numbers.
Small sample size with a MOE of 4% is accurate enough IMHO. Trudeau & Freeland are not doing
well enough to stay out of trouble. Poilievre will
be in trouble when the focus shifts to himself and
his Un electability.
Robert,
I thought you and I (and others) learned that unelectability lesson when Trump won. And now that same POS looks likely, according to the latest polls, to beat Biden, unless he drops dead or goes to jail first.
I thought Trump would beat Clinton but it wasn’t a sure thing for me.
Superpacs create corrupt billionaire faux-politicians
to run for public office in the USA so that corruption
is the norm to our South, but Canada is supposed to be governed via democratic process and Parliamentary democracy. Money cannot buy all the seats that the Conservatives need to win the GTA. Poilievre would have to move left in order to win the GTA and he won’t do it even if that’s the way to win the GTA. Unelectability in the USA isn’t the same thing as
unelectability in Canada, but I get your point.
I’m always wrong when it comes to prediction via
political races. In fact, I’m more often wrong than right when it comes to who will win an election. I try though.
;-)’
Since the mic “scandal” has blown over, the Liberals are currently losing their shit, led by someone by the name of
Mark Gerretsen, because Pierre wasn’t clapping vigorously enough for the President of Ukraine. Given that the Liberals regularly clap like barking seals when their Dear Leader speaks, I am not sure anyone can rise to that level of rapture but I digress. So many questions. Are cameras even allowed to be used to take pictures and videos in the HOC? Even if so, shouldn’t even Marky Mark be self aware enough to see the irony of HIS behaviour while Zelensky was speaking and he was taking a video of Pierre? Anyone?
I agree that the LPC are a bunch of trained seals these days. The rhetoric is outsized and even Poilievre is looking acceptable by comparison, frankly.
Everyone that knows anything about politics has suggested that Justin should take a walk in the snow. Leadership leaves everyone wanting. Even Ford is back-peddling to save his career. And now Jagmeet Singh is looking ineffectual, too.
This is the most contentious week we’ve had in a long time vis-a-vis domestic politics and geopolitics. It managed to scrape cost of living debate off of media
attention entirely.
Robert,
I know you don’t care for us. I get that. I hope you choose to vote Green or stay home. No one is more pathetic than the Siamese twins: Justin and Jagmeet. J&J, political box office poison.
I would have moved over to the Conservatives if
Erin O’Toole had not been turfed under leadership
review. The Conservative Party should have allowed
O’Toole to run against Trudeau a second time. O’Toole
would have been government in waiting if they had done that. Now we have to go through yet another newbie
having a first go against a veteran incumbent.
I liked O’Toole because he was working the center of
politics in Canada. He wasn’t fringe whereas Poilievre
is fringe due to his support for the truckers.
If you were running for office I’d get onside and vote for you, but you are not the leader of the party. The
Conservatives would give you the same difficult time that they gave O’Toole. They are overtly concerned about picking a fringe candidate to represent them.
Moreover, the American Republicans do the same thing when they choose a candidate to represent them. It’s not that I don’t care for Conservatives as much as I don’t think they are good representatives of the center of politics vis-a-vis the major metropolitan cities.
It’s interesting to think that the LPC and their shadow in Parliament are getting within sight of each other in this poll. Perhaps they will wave to each other as they pass, with the Liberals heading for the basement and the NDP stumbling around on the main floor.
Then Jagmeet Singh needs to find some spine and pull the plug on his Supply and Confidence Adventures.
WV,
Never going to happen. Singh couldn’t find his spine even if his doctor pointed it out. Another absolute political disgrace and wilful Trudeau Liberal lackey.
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6977117 whooops!
Speaker Rota is an idiot for not vetting before hand.
CSIS and RCMP should be embarrassed, too. PMO
is buck passing as well.
There are no excuses for this sort of mismanagement.
The whole thing is disgraceful. Rota should resign.
I doubt either CSIS or RCMP knew who was invited. And the TrueDumbsTM weren’t even bright enough to think about vetting. When Harper was PM, ordinary CPC members got vetted before being cleared to be in the room for one of his speeches. For the Harper government, national security was a top priority.
CSIS monitors everyone that has security clearance
under the RCMP 24/7/365. I have Enhanced Reliability
Status security clearance under the RCMP and CSIS monitors every key stroke I input via my keyboard
because of that.
Rota is monitored 24/7/365, too. And I can guarantee
all that CSIS knew who was visiting Parliament and so
did the RCMP. There are no excuses in this instance.
But Robert, if they knew why didn’t they stop it? They aren’t supposed to drop the ball.
For my part, I have a large file. Two different PMOs didn’t/don’t like me. LOL. Of course, that doesn’t stop me. Not for one moment. It’s the Irish in me.
CSIS & RCMP would know who was visiting the gallery because names have to be submitted before people are allowed to enter the HOC. In brief, CSIS & RCMP probably didn’t know that Rota would recognize his constituent publicly given the scripted nature of the event, but his name was submitted and cleared by RCMP. If anyone had researched the past of the individual in question we can assume red flags would pop up. Additionally, all in the gallery has security passes attached to their suit lapel.
Lastly, if an MP wanted to recognize a Canadian sitting in the gallery it would be something that was scripted for the event. In this case, Rota went off-script to recognize a constituent without taking the time to go through vetting processes. He likely assumed nothing could go wrong with that sort of gesture, but we know that the RCMP & CSIS had the list of names submitted by HOC security process.