07.19.2017 07:27 AM

Two years ago this week

From Leger.

Facebook reminded me. ┬áThe slide, meanwhile, reminds all of us that there are no certainties in politics – everything can change in an instant, and in ways few of us foresee, too (cf. Brexit, Trump).

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12 Comments


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    Miles Lunn says:

    The numbers for the Tories were bang on above, it is the NDP and Liberals and to a lesser extent Greens that shifted significantly between then and the election.


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      Warren says:

      Yep. It’s almost like JT saw the NDP number, said “I’m going to steal that,” and he did.


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        Cath says:

        Indeed. I’ll also go out on a limb and suggest that the NDP will mount no threat to Justin any time soon.


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          Matthew says:

          ROFL, it is statements like that that make for the big headlines about ‘how badly we got it wrong’. For now, maybe it is not far out on a limb, but you are making the normal mistake methinks, that your opinion is representative of more than you and your’n. When good campaign team comes along, and is married to the right circumstance, the dippers shall win. Anybody can win if the stars align, even an asshole like Trump, or an empty book like Theresa May. Bob Rae took the ring once, to everybodies surprise. Trudeau won, against all odds I might add. Do you realise how close it came to being Angry Tom instead of the Trudeau? The dippers HAD it, then let it slip away.


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    Kelly says:

    What’s sad is that a party that seems to be ok with torture and prefers the rulings of an American military Kangaroo court, over the Supreme Court of Canada and our constitution, gets as much support as it does. There is a dangerous level of ignorance in this country about the rule of law and the fact that Harper’s kid brother is cynically trying to exploit it should disqualify him from holding office.


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      Miles Lunn says:

      The Charter says nothing about compensation and I think it is the 10.5 million settlement many are outraged with as opposed to release. Maybe the courts would order a settlement of that amount but we don’t know. Also the Charter is territorial, otherwise it applies to anyone inside Canada but it does not have effect beyond our borders just as other country’s constitutions don’t enter ours. The only charter violation against Khadr was when Canadian officials participated in the interrogation, the Americans are under not obligation to follow our charter just as we are under no obligation to follow their constitution. As Warren pointed out elsewhere, there is much to criticize with the settlement and while the Conservatives may be overreacting, the Charter did not mandate Trudeau pay 10.5 million, that was, at least at this point a choice.


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        James Smith says:

        Perhaps, I wonder how much have the feds spent so far in a loosing cause and how much more they would have spent in defence of the $20 million lawsuit. I hope that Mr K uses some of his settlement to cover some of his legal team’s pro bono work.


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        Kelly says:

        Those are legitimate points. However I would trust the Conservatives motives if they stopped characterizing Khadr as an “admitted terrorist and murderer” when that characterization is based on a discredited legal process which wouldn’t even pass muster in the US outside of their military.

        People seem to be having trouble separating issues in this whole fight. Whatever Khadr “is” or did or did not allegedly do isn’t the issue. Khadr’s treatment is. I don’t want to live in a country where justice is applied arbitrarily based on emotions and prejudices. Other Canadians who were tortured abroad and in which the government was complicit were paid out large settlements. The cynicism of the current brand of Conservative party leadership is what is most galling. They are exploiting emotion and ignorance and it’s not the first time, either (eg. The lies around the ill-considered Dion-era alliance with the NDP and Bloc) as well as introduction of law and order bills they frankly knew would be slapped down by the courts just so they could campaign against “liberal judges”. These tactics are immoral.


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          Vancouverois says:

          That characterization is based on, among other things, a video that shows him constructing IEDs for use against our military.


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    jen says:

    Many people did unfortunately foresee the Trump win Mr Kinsella ;(

    Your first prediction, yours truly, from the Nov 8th 2016 election post got it right. (click link below)

    http://warrenkinsella.com/2016/11/whats-your-electoral-college-prediction/#comments

    For the record, I’m pretty sure that prediction was the closest one from your post!


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    Ronald O'Dowd says:

    Warren,

    Here it comes, another “fearless” prediction: Trump’s conduct in attempting to dispose of Chapters 19 and 20, will lead to Trudeau tearing up the NAFTA.

    I like the acronym CANEXIT!


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    Charlie says:

    Someone should send this to Tom Mulcair.

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